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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by PattyNchips2, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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  2. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

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    Not for me. It would just complicate the game / arguments even more (what is an orange card / what is a red card offence).
     
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  3. The Omega Man

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    Field Hockey introduced a three card system.

    Green triangle = booking/caution 2 greens = Yellow
    Yellow square = timed sin bin 5 minutes minimum no max.
    Red circle = permanent sending off.

    Clubs suspend their own players for a red card. If they are too soft on the player the suspension is doubled and the club fined. We usually suspended a played for four weeks, not matches and I have known 16 weeks given out by clubs.
     
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  4. Happy Tiger

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    Putting players in a sin bin for 5 mins would calm some of them down, so games would flow better eventually. Stopping gobshites like Rooney from being in the Ref's face (unless he's the captain...) can't be a bad thing. I like the cut of this new fella's gib, FIFA needs a shakeup.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    A new head of FIFA called Mr Champagne?

    You couldn't make it up.

    It's funny that they've used a picture of Huddlestone's red for this article.
     
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  6. Aire

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    I don't think we should go down the sin bin road. Some yellow cards are harsh at best. Should that happen to us against Man United or Man City it would ruin our game. It would mean people are less likely to want to tackle. We need more tackles not put them off further.
     
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  7. PLT

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    I really don't see the need. We just need to start implementing the current rules properly and clarifying what they actually are instead of trying to invent new ones.
     
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  8. MadridTiger

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    I agree with the majority of what this guys says. They use the sin bin in a lot of sports and i reckon a ten min penalty will make things more exciting etc. There would obviously be a type of offence that would warrant it, not just a three tiered card system.

    I also think rugby rules on speaking to the ref are a must and should have been enforced a long time ago. Its a complete joke the amount of players engulfing the officials at any given moment. It would soon stop if the ref had this power.
     
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  9. Jezz511

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    It could be used for little niggling stuff. Don't really know what word to use, but it could be for stuff like abusing referees, feigning injury, abusive language, sneaking forward from free-kicks,throws etc. Just stamping the little annoying **** out the game.
     
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  10. PLT

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    Yeah but couldn't a yellow or red card have the same effect if used properly?

    Yellow cards don't stop diving because the potential reward makes it worth the risk, so I'd stamp it out by giving out straight reds. See how often Suarez wins free kicks with his 'clever play' then.

    Start giving out yellows for the little niggling stuff and it'll stop.
     
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  11. McGregor HU5

    McGregor HU5 Well-Known Member

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    Minus this orange card bollocks, I think Mr Champagne's new rules will be good for the game.
     
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    +1 for all of it.
     
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  13. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

    BigotAlertAnalRimMan New Member

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    At first glance, I don't think it's a good idea but I do see his points.

    For example those tackles that "could be career ending" but don't end up being because of a lucky blade of grass or something. Those would warrant orange more so than ared, if no damage has actually been done.
     
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  14. Ernie Shackleton

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    Too much tinkering with the game already. It'd become like ice hockey or basketball with players leaving the pitch or coming back on all the time. Referees would apply it inconsistently as they already do with everything else. Teams would just go negative if a player was sin binned for 10 minutes so the game as a spectacle would suffer. It'd give managers something else to get unnecessarily arsey with fourth officials about. It would have little impact on the outcome of the game.

    Football is a simple, beautiful game. Leave it as such. No one affiliated to FIFA should be allowed anywhere near it. They will only **** it up.

    Monsieur Champagne is another bloody idiot who is trying to gain publicity for himself as he climbs FIFAs corrupt, self serving pole of power.

    Nobody with a French name should be allowed to work in football administration ever. Fact.
     
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  15. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

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    This chap was bit of an orange-ca(r)d

    please log in to view this image
     
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  16. MattTheTiger

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    Orange cards sound ridiculous. What's to stop players getting an orange card with 5 mins left for a silly foul he needs to make when he's on a yellow already? He's not gonna miss the next game whereas he'd normally receive a red. I agree with the captains should be the only player to go up to the ref but the other suggestions are just silly
     
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    you're wrong.
     
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  18. PLT

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    I agree so hard with all of this.

    In particular the bit in bold is spot on. The refs struggle already to implement the current, simple rules. That's partly because of the needless complications due to the ambiguous wording of the rules and certain refs letting certain things go while others ref to the letter of the law. This won't solve anything. The first thing that needs to happen with the rules of football is clarification and enforcement. No changes should be made until we know the current ones aren't working when implemented properly. The rules regarding yellow cards and red cards are fine. The problem is refs not enforcing them (or in some cases, not being able to see the incident and in this instance, they probably need more support in terms of retrospective punishments).
     
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  19. MattTheTiger

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    Not really...
     
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  20. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I can only think of one situation where I could see you agreeing to it - Denying a clear goal scoring opportunity/deliberate handball when it's saving a goal.

    In the area = penalty and a sin bin
    Outside the area = free kick and a red card

    The penalty pretty much restores the goal scoring opportunity but particularly with the outfield goalkeeper impressions it's still not as good as the goal would have been so it deserves more than a yellow. Outside the area the free kick is far worse than the chance you had so a bigger punishment is doled out to the offender.
     
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