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Is history cast in stone?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by PattyNchips2, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Strange? What do you think the "Dons" bit refers to?
     
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  2. DMD

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    Nonsense. Some papers have already started using variations of Hull Tigers and Hull City tigers. If you're using your argument, where's the reference to Hull Comets?
     
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  3. PattyNchips2

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    no he has got it EXACTLY spot on.. that is what I have been saying, so it appears that you are the one that has the wrong end of the stick - are you arguing with yourself?? - heh I bet you still lose!
     
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  4. DMD

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    Yet you still can't manage to prove your point. You stick to the pithy attention seeking ****e that bores people ****less. <ok>
     
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  5. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    so DMD's argument is: if a mass murdered changed his name, he would no longer be responsible for his crimes because history would've changed?

    ah I must go and tell Ian Brady. I can get him off so he is free to go and murder some more school girls.
    ****ING BRIGHT SPARK!
     
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  6. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    OK hows this for proof... what has happened has happened..
    we got promoted in 2008 - no matter how many name changes we have, that fact will still remain
     
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  7. DMD

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    No it isn't. That's bollocks.
     
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  8. DMD

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    "We" being who exactly?
     
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  9. Amin Yapusi

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    This argument isn't worth arguing. DMD's point is entirely nonsensical, he'd argue that the sky is green and the grass is blue. Let it go.
     
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  10. John. Walkington.

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    The sooner the FA make their decision the better. Then we can all move on.
     
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  11. Obadiah

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    Historically MK Dons won the FA Cup. Same club, different name, different ground.
     
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  12. hullinasia

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    So just to add a small point. Has the city already had a name change from Kingston upon hull (kingstown) if we go back earlier it's real name to be just be known as Hull. What a bright idea to shorten the name for marketing reasons maybe !!!!!
     
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  13. Amin Yapusi

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    Comparisons to MK Dons are a little far fetched. MK Dons is a unique and very extreme case, the only similarity is the change of name, and even then our name change isn't as drastic a change. But that's because of the whole MK Dons situation with them moving from Wimbledon to Milton Keynes. As I said they're really not comparable.
     
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  14. PattyNchips2

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    the team that is currently Hull City
     
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  15. PattyNchips2

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    but that is exactly what you are saying... you are saying that history will change!
     
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  16. SydneyTiger14

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    Well said.
     
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  17. Obadiah

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    I know but historically it is the same team, they just changed their ground and name. In the FA's records Wimbledon became MK Dons. The only difference being the reaction of the supporters and the football community. That pressure forced Mk Dons to renounce their history and eventually give the FA Cup trophy to Merton Council.

    The people who decide whether Hull Tigers is the same team isn't the owner or the FA it's the supporters and that page of history is yet to be written.
     
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  18. SydneyTiger14

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    For the part of our history that we were the Hull Comets I expect we are referred to as the Hull Comets. For the part of our history where we are Hull City we are called Hull City, and in the future if part of our history has us as Hull Tigers, then we will be called Hull Tigers for those events.

    Just as Arsenal as the club entered the league in a certain year BUT they are referred to as Woolwich Arsenal upon doing so (or whatever they were called then, you get my point).

    It's the same argument for people who say it will be a different club if the name change goes through.

    A rose by any other name, and all that...
     
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  19. PattyNchips2

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    exactly. things change - nothing ever stays the same, things are in constant motion.
    you know that the team was Hull City, DMD? what difference does it make if people are ignorant of that fact and want to call it something different?
     
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  20. Obadiah

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    Wimbledon changed its name to MK Dons and things changed. It is the same team but the perception of it has changed.
     
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