I can assure you I have asked him to do no such thing, as I know he does not have such a plan. It's bullshit, an abstract notion borne on the back of his spat with a council, fuelled by his arrogance and promoted by fools who use their stupidity to find none-existent theories, folk-lore and downright nonsense to give him some form of false credibility. He is a charlatan, a bully and a liar; come to terms with it before it is too late for our club.
No, rocket science is exactly what you are making something that is very simple. You bring the superstitions and life styles of other cultures into a business plan that has not yet covered the first base of even the most basic of SWOT analysis. The concept of the power of the Tiger brand is lost in the proliferation of others trying to do exactly the same, the uniqueness is much diluted; this puts any competition of name-change vs nickname pretty much in the realms of common-sense - why invest in one when you have the other all ready, free-of-charge. When you earnt your crust in the international world of finance, what did you think of those that lied to you while claiming to be your friend and saviour. I brought it up earlier and OLM has referred to it, but using your wealth of experience in the target markets, did you come across many instances of OEM/Brand rip-off? Just how much in merchandise profits will return to the club's coffers, in your opinion? Anyone who has travelled on business or holiday would regularly come across fake Rolex, Armani and, er, Hull Tigers merchandise. This is an insult to all Hull City AFC supporters who have made sacrifices and effort to get to games and keep the club going through thick and thin. You are welcome and entitled to your opinion; unfortunately i think it it is arguing the wrong cause, for reasons no better than you think you know the markets you think he is targeting with his bizarre business plan. I would like to have agreeable words with you, but the facts are becoming obscured by posts such as yours. A belated best wishes on your birthday.
If he has any realistic plans in place he would just have to tell the fans that he has already made a start on this new Tigers based investment. This is not giving anything away, but at the very least stops a large part of the argument against. His current stance is putting pressure on Steve Bruce, the only reason that SB has had to talk about it again this week is because AA spoke to Sky. The fact that AA can't even give the most basic and vague hint that any plans are in place speaks volumes. Earlier posts suggest that investment returns from Asian markets take years to bear fruit, I would suggest that he is better building foundations before he buys a roof.
I look forward to the retractions from the antis when it is revealed he presented a business plan to the FA. every club owner, even our useless ones who took us to the point of administration had to have a business plan - it just happens theirs was useless.
please log in to view this image Owners in England must understand a club is more than a business What is a football club? In law, in England, it is a business like any other, regulated by the rules of the league in which it plays, and yet there is a very clear sense that it is something more than that. As more clubs are taken over by foreign owners â by people who lack the nebulous and yet still profound sense that most involved in English football have of what a club should be â the issue becomes increasingly fraught. Assem Allam, the Egyptian businessman who owns Hull City, seems in no doubt that the club is just another business, one he thinks would be more marketable if they were called Hull Tigers. Fans, who have spent the past 110 years calling the club Hull City, are generally appalled, and the Football Association is consulting âstakeholdersâ before deciding whether to ratify the name change ahead of next season. âNo one on earth is allowed to question my business decisions,â Allam said. âI wonât allow it. I can give you my CV to give you comfort for what I do in business, what I have achieved, but for someone to come and question me is not allowed. âIâm here to save the club and manage the club for the benefit of the community. It will never, never be the other way round â that the community manage it for me. But if the community say go away, I promise to go away within 24 hours.â Legally, of course, he is right. This is not Germany, where clubs must be majority owned by their members: once somebody owns a club, it is theirs to do with what they want â even, as it turned out in the case of Wimbledon, moving the club to another city. Cardiff City fans are going through something similar with Vincent Tan, who has changed their traditional blue shirts to red, as well as having sacked a popular manager who seemed to be doing a decent job of keeping them in the Premier League. Venkyâs have made an almighty mess of Blackburn Rovers and now there is panic at Southampton as their chairman, Nicola Cortese, has been stood down after falling out with the owner Katharina Liebherr. Yet football clubs are not just businesses, something made clear by a statue that stands by the entrance to Sunderlandâs Stadium of Light. It depicts a family of the 1930s. Standing behind two children, a mother holds up the arm of a flat-capped father as though she were a boxing referee and he had just won a title bout. His face creased by the hardships of life, he holds aloft a sphere made of three interlocking hoops. A plaque in the plinth makes the point overtly: âAll generations come together at the Stadium of Light,â it reads. âA love of âThe Ladsâ has bonded together supporters for more than 125 years and will for many more years in the future. Supporters who have passed away have their support carried on by todayâs fans, just as the supporters of today will have their support continued through family and friends.â The statue was raised in 1998, shortly after Sunderland moved to the new stadium and was part of a surge of optimism that carried them to promotion in 1999. It makes the point clearly: a football club has a responsibility to its community because for so many it is the focal point of that community. It is not a franchise to be traded and moved and fiddled with; it is in some hard-to-define way an emblem of the region. Sunderland were owned by Bob Murray, a local businessman, when the statue was erected. Since then, the club has passed through an Irish consortium to the Texas millionaire Ellis Short. He is better than many, and yet it is doubtful that somebody from Sunderland would ever have appointed Paulo Di Canio as manager, a man whose politics were wholly at odds with those of the city. The only power fans have to resist owners is not turning up, but even that can feel like a betrayal. At clubs where there is a waiting list for season tickets, it is understandable if those who have been going for years keep going. The flip side is that most Premier League owners have invested an awful lot of necessary money. The Liebherrs saved Southampton after relegation to League One, while Allam has invested £75 million (Dh453m) in Hull and Tanâs money got Cardiff promoted. Owners, naturally, feel that gives them the right to do what they want with a thing they own. You just wish that they realised that when you buy a football club, you are not just buying a football club but also entering a social contract. There may be no legal obligation, but there is a moral one, which is to protect the values and traditions of an institution that has helped bond a community, in many cases, for more than a century. http://www.thenational.ae/sport/sun...st-understand-a-club-is-more-than-a-business?
true, but as enough people have said time will tell. I firmly believe that no owner would pump 80 odd million into a club (yes he is entitled to charge interest - as we would have had to pay a higher percentage to a bank, and our previous owners over the last 20 years have not been whiter than white before it is another chance to slag off Allam) and then destroy that investment by persuing a policy which means his investment goes down - as when he decides the time is right for a sale he wants to get every penny back he has invested. that is business sense - now that may not be football sense but if you had told fans 50 years ago that foreign owners would run the game, with multi-billion investment from TV companies they would have been like the flat-earthers "over our dead bodies", and like it or not since the PL started - football is number 1 a business, number 2 a commodity to sell overseas, number 3 something for the fans (I give you the FA cup final kick off time as the prime example as to how fans have been shafted - and the gate should have been bolted years ago as the escaped horse is now dead through old age)
You make several good points, and as OLM and HullinAsia and all who have had business involvement in Asia in particular, and other foreign markets would agree, a healthy dose of scepticism is required whenever evaluating any investment or sponsorship proposal. China for example is notorious for its corporate scandals and fraudulent accounting practices, and its banking system and the "shadow banks" in particular are riddled with bad loans. Almost 80% of the Chinese IPO's listed on the NYSE are either underwater from their listing price or have been de-listed for inappropriate reporting practices. So to answer your question in the past several decades I've had many meetings with corporate execs, investment analysts etc who have been little more than bullshit and rip-off artists in Asia. Not that hard to spot fortunately when you do your due diligence on their financials. Like China's National Statistical Agency they are not very good at hiding the obvious contradictions in their data. I honestly doubt that Mr.Allam and his advisors have any detailed marketing plan to get Asian/Mid-Eastern sponsors at this time. I think his concept of promoting the "Tiger" brand and the name is a valid one. But the devil will be in the details...and it will take time and as I said before people with connections and experience in those regions. Thanks for the birthday wishes btw. I hope I can stick around a while longer to see how all this plays out.
yes lets meet the FA on Friday ... get told you have no chance then spunk £14m on two players in record signings .. get your blinkers off .. deal has been done
No to Hull City Tigers. I'm not having that.... Its Hull City or Hull Tigers .....both are fine by me But they can sod off with Hull City Tigers.
Don't worry Filey,he's applied to play as Hull Tigers FC...just his scatterbrained approach to this whole issue has confused a lot of people. He initially said next season the team will be Hull City Tigers,"not changing,just shortening"???The season after he would drop the city.Yet another example of him not sticking to his word. It will be one of your choices,so at least you should be happy.
Method in my madness, I was thinking along the line of a Black Panther. It wasn't meant to be serious. Have you seen how many Tigers there are/have been. An extra Panther is nothing.
Let us hope the signings AA s making keep the team playng well whatever the outcome re name change. Most of the alarmist speculation is just that.Jelly and Longy are real signings and our next home game is against Spurs.If we go bust (no reason to seriously think we will) we wll have had some great times rather than going bust if AA had not saved us. I do hope the lads who have been cheating the club out of revenue keep out of the debate -as they seem to be doing.
