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OFFICIAL STATEMENT: Cortese leaves Southampton

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Saintjoey

    Saintjoey Well-Known Member

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    Live on SSN
     
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  2. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

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    I just find it strange that MP (and potentially some players) may find it completely untenable without cortese. As though they are unable to consider working for another chairman. Perhaps that says something about KL?
     
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  3. pass the football

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    They didn't fund the transfers. Maybe Cortese needed their agreement on the outlay but that was the club's money.
     
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  4. Pelletron

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    Thing is, if Shaw planned to go in the summer anyway, it really doesn't make much difference if he goes now. I guess the problem would be the knock-on effect, if other players see Luke and Rickie go. Might get that sinking ship feeling.

    The other issue of concern would be if MP leaves - and then tries to bring our key players to wherever he ends up next. I guess if he goes abroad, that might include Morgan and Dejan. If he stays here, I can't quite see him going to a big enough club to get Adam.

    In many ways, this illustrates that KL's thinking has its merits, and shows up the flaws in NC's. A Chairman leaving shouldn't have quite such a risk attached to it in terms of having the manager's and players' loyalty tied in. If MP leaves due to a loyalty to NC, and various players leave due to feelings of loyalty towards MP or NC, then this would have happened somewhere along the line anyway.

    Regardless, there needs to be some clarity and a plan for our future made public very soon, as players will feel like us, and the uncertainty might drive them out. If they receive assurances, then they may resettle. They all I'm sure would have been aware that NC was leaving since last year, so why would they suddenly be panicking now?
     
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  5. fatletiss

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    You only wonder???
     
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  6. Saint_Nom

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    Like many if not all of us, I am gutted Cortese has left. He was easily one of if not the best chairman around today. Some people may have not liked the way he worked and sometimes conducted himself but actually what he has done for us as a club is something special.

    As for KL all I can say is bloody idiot! She clearly wants to sell and profit on the club and players. Its her money and club so suppose she can do what she likes. But she is still a bloody idiot. I hope the rumours are true of Cortese coming back in summer with RedBull as backing to buy the club. (I doubt it will happen though).

    I can see alot of players leaving now as they all respected Cortese and the "vision". If Poch leaves will trigger others also.
     
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  7. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Just for clarification, what do you know that I don't, that gives you the certain knowledge that KL is "an idiot"

    I will wait and see the outcome and what comes out in the wash before making judgement.
     
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  8. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    FLT is right. No snap judgements let's see what happens. One step at a time etc. Let's get 3pm out the way and then go and thrash Sunderland!
     
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  9. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    There won't be a mass exodus of players in the short term. They have contracts, well paid jobs, and families settles into the area. There may be changes in the future because we will be under a new regime, but players get upset and concerned for their long term futures but then go back to training as usual. I just hope this isn't all about selling Luke Shaw.
     
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  10. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    We have our own section on the BBC Gossip Column, we are big time.
     
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  11. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Not only our own section, the top section. During a transfer window. That IS big!
     
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  12. Sotonist

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    the players who could well go (or try to go) int he short term are dani and maybe gaston. dani was clearly only here for poch so if he follows nicola out i'd expect dani to go too. Gaston seemed to count cortese as his main ally at the club also.

    I didn't even think of these two when i considered earlier whether the likes of schneiderlin, shaw and lallana might go.
     
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  13. AllotedTime

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    I've not posted for a while but my take on all of this for what it's worth (based on what I read last summer, over the last few days and a bit of pure gut instinct) ...

    I believe the reason NC has gone is that he will not accept the appointment of a non-exec chairman answerable to the family. The autonomy and complete decision making power of NC was the root of the argument in the summer, and it seems the compromise reached then was only temporary. Basically, I believe that KL has tried to persuade NC to accept a position as CEO working alongside a non-exec Chair and he has refused this and therefore resigned.

    I don't think this is directly about funds for transfers - I doubt the family provided furthe funding for the summer transfers, given the TV money they would rightly expect the club to be self financing. Of course, indirectly one of the things that NC wanted complete autonomy over was transfers (in and out).

    I think the bigest issue for MP is swallowing his pride. He (and Spider) made clear statements in the summer that they would follow NC out of the door, but (IMO) this was part of a carefully orchestrated PR campaign by NC in his power struggle and I doubt he actually expected NC to go. I also doubt MP wants to leave. KL's first job is convincing him that the project continues unchanged so that he stays.

    We don't know what KL's plans are for the club, and I am prepared to give her (and indeed anyone generally) the benefit of the doubt until I see evidence to the contrary. The biggest immediate concern is player sales - the really obvious one being Luke.

    I am very grateful to NC for everyhting he has done for us. His vision and ambitiion were compelling and I truly believed he would take us all the way to the top. Like it or not though he doesn't own the club. There are two sides to every story and I wouldn't be suprised if he was an extremely difficult man to work with from KL's persepctive. The argument last summer, and NC's use of the media in that argument, can't have helped. With hindisght, this was perhaps inevitable.

    The idea that NC is going to come back in with a consortium to buy the club is crazy.

    A lot will become clear over the next week or so.
     
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  14. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Is Mike O'Callaghan really the best person SSN can find to represent our club?
     
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  15. SAINTDON13

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    Someone on Twitter mused that he found it ironic that members of a Club that is run by a rag tag group of people with barely two halfpennies to rub together, that had been ruined by a series of pennyless and useless owners, think it is hilarious that we have lost our fairly wealthy bank manager and have been taken over by a billionaire, is somehow cause for ridicule. A need for some kind of perspective here I think. It is obviously a bit embarassing, but hardly a cause for mirth. Everything else will be down to the reaction of Pochettino, we will have to wait until three o'clock and go from there. It's time for change, perhaps, but not oblivion.
     
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  16. Dan

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    Rather him than Illingsworth.
     
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  17. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this is true. He seems perfectly jovial, but.....
     
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  18. Brinkworth Saint

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    I agree. Anyone with an investment needs to ensure they are fully satisfying their own financial objectives and those of any shareholders and make judgements from there. That KL is is any position to take the action that she is now involved with, indicates that people behind the 'empire' have a lot of confidence in her ability and judgement. It could well be that on the horizon there is a possible suitor for the club which offers a great ROI for them if a sale is likely, that's plain business sense. There is more riding on this situation than a simple disagreement with a talented CEO. It's called business confidence and KL will want to make sure that the main business' reputation is not harmed by the way in which this situation is resolved. MP has brought his own situation under unnecessary pressure by his earlier statement re his 'tie' with NC. In business this is always a dangerous place to be, i.e. your future depends on that of someone else. As talented a manager as he is, and will undoubtedly be a massive loss to the Club should he stick to this sense of loyalty, he will have no financial reason to leave and will probably put himself in a slightly weaker position when it comes to negotiating with any future club. The players and their agents will also need to tread carefully as their motivation for leaving will form part of any judgement for future employers. So for the time being assume nothing and keep calm and the teapot busy!
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    You should come here more often Brinkworth.
     
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  20. SAINTDON13

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    Poch has the ultimate get out clause, I didn't say that my interpreter did it.
     
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