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OT: An alternative proposal

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Ivan Dobsky, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    Some right-wings cranks are proposing a bank holiday for Thatcher.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-day-bank-holiday-2057853

    How about a spring Bonfire Night on the 8th of April each year, with fireworks and effigies to commemorate her demise? Surely it would be good for business, especially corner shops selling fireworks to underage kids, and to be able to enjoy burgers and hot dogs at bonfires while it's still light. It'd be fantastic to see what 'Maggies' children could assemble and drag around the streets cadging money.

    I'd give them money.
     
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  3. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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  4. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Oid be der wiv me fiddle gettin on dem jigs an reels.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    crap.. we've enough public holidays... this country aint f'n france...
     
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  6. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    disgusting!

    dont mind some sort of honour made for Mandela but not this wench, fecking joke!
     
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  7. johnsonsbaby

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    What did Mandela do for this country?
     
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  8. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    didn't do anything for this country directly, just saying with what he has done for people all over the world, i wouldn't have an issue if they did want to honour him in some way.
     
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  9. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Him and the likes of Martin Luther King jnr brought the plight of black people in this country into the spotlight, don't forget jb the 60s when Mandela was fighting apartheid in SA there were B&B's in Liverpool with "No Blacks" on their vacancy signs.
     
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  10. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Can't compare the two. One was strictly non-violence the other .... wasn't! Just like MLK v Malcolm X - same aim, very different approach.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Don't think that matters jb, Britain used violence all over the globe to enslave people and rape countries of their wealth.

    Sometimes when words don't work there are only desperate measures left, just as the two men mentioned went about their aims differently their respective countries went about their racism on different scales by comparison.
     
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    I accept your view but disagree. You can compare Britain misdemeanours with Mandela but not MLK - he never killed anyone, that matters a great deal - he achieved his aim completely free of blood on his hands.
     
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  13. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    We're going well off topic jb but I'll finish with this.

    Did Mandela kill more people than were on the Belgrano, obviously not.<whistle>
     
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  14. johnsonsbaby

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    OT on an OT thread <laugh>

    Actually he admitted to 156 acts of public violence which included bombs in public places so my guess - probably a lot more.

    We are all flawed individuals ....
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Nice debate jb, pity about the subject.<ok>
     
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  16. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    yeah, sorry mate - didn't mean to - blame jenners <grr>
     
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  17. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Agreed.<grr>
     
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    Isn't this meant to be about Thatch?

    I've never made a secret of my undying hatred for the woman, her cronies and her ideology, so no prizes for guessing my reaction to this.
    However, I will add that regardless of your politics and what you think of Thatcherism, to have a public holiday in memory of someone who was so controversial and so thoroughly divisive of opinion, is perverse.
    National celebrations should be confined to figures for whom there is general admiration, this is just a bit of right-wing political provocation,imo.


    P.S. I realise that Guy Fawkes Night was similarly provocative, but that stems from a supposedly more brutal era, and nowadays its meaning has been mostly lost through the passage of time.
     
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  19. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    .....<diva>
     
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    ... and something we've never done in this country. We have no national holidays in remembrance of anybody. Guy Fawkes day, which isn't a holiday anyway, is the only 'named' day in our calendar. A Thatcher bank holiday would be setting a precedent. No thanks.
     
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