I only have one- that's Hull City. You don't appear to have any-just an affiliation to watching a game at the KC, regardless of who's playing.
The OSC isn't really supposed to have opinions on things is it? It's a sanitised branch of support that gets near to the club and has the benefit of meeting players at little shindigs, getting some signed photos, stuff like that. If it upsets the club by suddenly getting opinionated, those privileges could go. It's not in their interest to oppose AA. He'll immediately tell George Boyd not to sign Barry's backpack. I think the OSC is best just carrying on as autograph hunters. It will attract those that want that kind of thing, and I doubt there'll be many in the OSC who feel strongly about Hull Tigers. If there were, they'd have left. They're best keeping out of it, or just announcing absolute support of AA no matter what, and let other fans who don't have vested interests make up their own minds.
Have you been in a coma? The team that has represented this city for the last 110 years is under threat of extinction on the whim of some wealthy maverick. He wants to start a new one in its place. This means YOUR team - that's HCFC, the Tigers, Hull City. Got it now?
Just a word to anyone not against the name change that this is an anti-name change thread allowed under Ricardo's very fair guidelines. There have already been provocative 'baiting' posts on it aimed at drumming up the kind of arguments that ruined the board before Christmas, so if you're not bothered about the name-change and want to keep the board as good as it has been since the sticky I suggest you give this one a wide berth.
Club extinction!!! Have never read such over reactionary twaddle. Have you been in a coma over recent years when we've been saved from actual extinction. Just can't no longer take you lot serious, its a 'little old name change' ...... Club Extinction Indeed....
Amen to that, wise words to follow Was just thinking the exact same thing myself whilst reading the thread.
You're missing nothing and this simple fact should have been a part of the CWTD campaign, instead of trying to get into bed with them and the club. It's nice to be nice, but it's daft to be daft, and you are a mug if you let folk treat you like one. The OSC are a part of the problem not a part of the solution, because to be a part of the solution they will no longer be the OSC and just the SC, after their own mini-Allam induced name-change; after all, he is their ultimate gaffer.
It kind of is, in the sense that they can't be an independent group with their own opinions (other than just representing the membership of course) but at the same time the relationship with the club is just one of 'do as your told, or you won't be getting the likes of Huddlestone and Livermore coming to your events any more'. Not quite true. Anyone can volunteer for the OSC. There's no official voting process like with CTWD. Because it's hilarious when fans lose their football club isn't it? It's more what TWF said, it's a fear of Allam rather than a liking of him. In fact quite the opposite is true, he does nothing but moan about him. I don't think there's really anything newsworthy in this statement. It's not a huge fallout it is; CTWD think the OSC should be able to do a joint statement - the OSC think it's not possible and would in fact threaten their position. CTWD have accepted that and just posted it online since that's what people want.
Stuart Blampey ah yes, the club will die at the end of this season argument which you and your mates are under the impression of. The club will still play at the KC (did it die when it moved from Boothferry Park - where it had been for X years of its history), The club will still be owned by the same person The majority of players will still be the same The manager will still be the same (assuming Man Utd don't try to get him) The kit will still be the same (don't think it's a year when the design changes) The tea-lady will still be the same The players will still train at the same training ground. ALL THAT WILL CHANGE is one word in our name, which is not like franchise FC in Milton Keynes. If you and other we want to take ownership of the club (led by Obi) can't see it is not complicated or doomsday scenario then how do you lot cope with progress in life - boycott every product which has changed its name?
Where do you lot get this from? No-one has said the CTWD aim is ownership; it is for fans' participation (as the good Doctor once proposed himself....). Do stop making things up or, at least, catch up.
The club will still play at the KC (did it die when it moved from Boothferry Park - where it had been for X years of its history), No- it was just HCFC changing stadium again (as they did in 1946), and seeing a stepchange in their fortunes The club will still be owned by the same person - Owners come and go The majority of players will still be the same- Players come and go The manager will still be the same (assuming Man Utd don't try to get him)- Managers come and go The kit will still be the same (don't think it's a year when the design changes)- Kits come and go The tea-lady will still be the same - Not worthy of response The players will still train at the same training ground.- Not worthy of response ALL THAT WILL CHANGE is one word in our name, which is not like franchise FC in Milton Keynes. If you and other we want to take ownership of the club (led by Obi) can't see it is not complicated or doomsday scenario then how do you lot cope with progress in life - boycott every product which has changed its name? We become a franchise. The current one proposed is Hull Tigers which sounds like a baseball team and makes football fans the length and breadth of this country cringe. If the club name becomes a variable and pimped as a titillator of know-nowt foreign investors, then we will become Hull Yang Ping, Hull Qaeda or Hull Tampax, which would be appropriate for the supine ****s who are 'comfy' with the extinction of our club.
Ok - define how fans' participation would work when the fans and owner are on opposite ends of an issue. And how is it becoming a franchise club - (unless Papa has in his business plan to have Tiger franchises playing in China/India/Indonesia/Thailand etc), a franchise does not simply happen because you have changed the club name - perhaps some on here had better look in a business dictionary if they are going to be putting forward a sound business case as to why the club will get an increase in funding due to remaining Hull City AFC - as Mr Allam is certainly working on one saying why the name change would be good for the business. And if you object to football being a business (in my last sentence), then you should have given up on football long ago - the genie was let out of that bottle decades ago.
Fan participation is achieved after the FA vote by compromise. If there is no compromise there is no fan participation. I'm not sure we have to show that there will be increased revenue from remaining Hull City for the FA to refuse the application.
We would become an advertising vehicle for Tampax. They have magazine and tv ads, and want to increase their outreach. I'm sure if our current owner has his way, other clubs will follow and change their names for money.
They're not. Both want fan participation, both want success, both acknowledge the current finances are not sustainable and other revenue streams are needed. The only difference of opinion is the name change.
