Stoke (A) They were an assaidi away from a loss against Everton, he cant play against us, so hopefully we will do em. 3 points Aston Villa (H) Home game, SAS back by then? should be a win. 3 points Everton (H) Shock loss, everton get a dodgy pen, everyone despairs, lfc to be relegated, haters come out of the woodwork. 0 points West Brom (A) Strong bounce back match, like we have been doing this season, coutinho finally scores from range. 3 points Arsenal (H) Meaty draw, come from behind, sets us up for the rest of the season, shows "character", 1 point Total: 10 points Just my two sense...
7 might have been a good target for last season, but if we're serious contenders for top four we're looking at 10 minimum. Trying to predict where the points will come is always tricky because games go against expectations so often. I always predict a win for us regardless.
I agree. We have in reality dropped 6 points off the pace due to the christmas fixtures and now we must... MUST make those points back up and put some distance from 5th on the board as we play city and Chelsea at home ear the end and those 2 could blow the year. 3 of these 5 are bascially games ANY SIDE playing fortop 4 should be winning... no question. I said it v hull home and away I said it v cardiff, It is no insult to a club like stoke or villa or west brom. they can fancy taking what they like but we simply must win those games. After that two home games verse rivals. Everton... we drew 3-3 could've killed them allen missed, they could then have killed us.. a point is a must, 3 is not out of the question. I would put both sides fairly close to each other so we can win it. Arsenal must be a draw. we cannot go thinking we can beat them but our game starts a period that will define their season. they will want to beat us. they then play utd at home, the fa cup will be next if they get thought to the 5th round and then they play bayern. YET AGAIN FEBRUARY COULD END THEIR SEASON. in short i feel we will be pushed but if we can take a draw at home its a good result... maybe we buy fantastically and we win ... who knows.. maybe suarez beats them on his own. 11 from 15? sounds pretty good to me. 13 out of 15 = great
Long term predictions are seldom accurate as there's simply too many variables in football & the unexpected often happens. Look at our home game on Boxing day, against bottom of the table Sunderland. We were unbeaten at home in over a year, lost only once this season (to City away) & therefore no-one gave Sunderland a prayer. Yet, 20 mins in we gift them a penalty, go down to 10 men & spent the next 70 mins trying to break them down with only 9 outfield players. Result = away win. You'd have never predicted that result, but the circumstances on the day dictated it. Same as any game, often they'll go to form, but at the top level games are won & lost at the margins & therefore can be decided with one piece of luck, brilliance or a shocking decision. If it wasn't that way, then we'd all be millionaires & the bookies would be bankrupt If you got 10 from those fixtures you've done well. 2 points per game is always a decent return. Stoke away is a tough fixture, WBA should have a new manager in place & might have the 'new manager surge' so that could be tricky at their place. Arsenal & us are both 'coin toss' fixtures. Villa are gash though, so I'd fully expect you to wallop them (cue away win to prove my point )
of course you are correct but... aspiring and predicting are two different things. I aspire to 11 points minimum as I feel we need it for the later parts of the season. Look its like this... the odd result is like you say but over 5 games? hell if things were not predictable there would be no pro gamblers. I mean anyone over the past 6 years could have made a nice living betting on nadal and federer up to the semis in any tournament... not any more of course but there you go. I'm not predicting any result but do feel that its necessary for LFC to get 11 points to maintain a challenge. Any less and it'll be a big uphill challenge to go for 4th. if we get 14... well we can compete with city for a while... get 7 like some have said and we may as well play for 6th.
how the **** do we get 14? and 7 is draws for most and one win, dont see whats wrong with that. been here many times expecting a good return on games coming up and we have failed so why this time dif? my 7 is a bit more reasonable than your, assume you meant 13 or 15, you are talking about a return on challenging for the title not top 4.
"Long term predictions are seldom accurate as there's simply too many variables in football & the unexpected often happens" Short term predictions are seldom accurate - for the same reasons! I thought Everton didn't quite manage a full year unbeaten at home, almost made it but that Sunderland game stopped it.
Well obviously My point was that trying to predict the results of a successions of games is infinitely harder, due to the numerous variables involved. My bad, we fell 4 days short of the full 12 months.
In tennis it's a straight head to head, one man vs one man. The formbook is followed far more often than in football where you've got 22 competitors involved in the contest & therefore far more variables involved. The averages are more meaningful. If you can look back over a sustained period at the points per game average, then you can make a half sensible prediction as to the overall output from a selection of fixtures - but not the individual results.
I don't think it's any harder at all - it's equally hard. There's always reasons why punters think we will or won't beat another side. Some are swayed by events arising like players going out injured or banned etc. but equally others just see the fixture and remain confident in their bet.
i know that ffs, i put 7 down as it was mainly draws and to show room for improvement, also remain unbeaten which hopefully will give the team some confidence. 2 of those games are teams around us so we don't lose anything on them, but some of you are talking about returns on title winning form and you are having a go at me for my lowely 7 lol
so betting on tennis is easier? funny how the bookies can boil it all down to very similar odds. BUt your point is fine football is indeed more complicated as your point on sunderland indicates an extra varibale or two... however over the course of a season it balances out. If you are however saying i could never predict with any accuracy the next five games in terms of results I don't agree.. I do agree that sure anything could happen and say if suarez got injured my predictions would be in trouble instantly... but i could say the same if say murray slipped on a baseline and ripped his groin... or whatever. I think its fine to predict the next 5 even though i deliberately didn't AND the long running block of 4 thread actually highlights precisely the thinking you are sayig as well. I say a champion will win 3 out of 4 games minimum and a champions league team will win at least 2 and pick up and other point too. so... over the next 5 games my belief is unchanged. we need to win the 3 v lower half teams or we will be losing ground and we need to do as well as we can v the top 4 rivals. 2 points would be great, i think we can hope to do better seeing they are at home. and you are right taking 10 would be doing well but i think we need to do better to get back closer to 1st than 6th as i think our run in has those other two home games that will hurt us. (city and chelsea)
