Well that was a f-ing waste of time wasnt it. At no time what so ever (except start at Melbourne) did we ever show any courage, grit or determination. Well and truely smashed by the Aussies and i cant understand the tactics or (lack of) leadership. PS. Mitchel Johnson is not a bowler, how did that useless f**k get so many wickets? I also read somewhere that we had a record..the first team to lose 100 wickets in an ashes or 5 day test..Is that correct? johnson hit double figures...really irks me! Now i have to work with these annoying f**ks until we win the World cup later this year . I cant yet decide if the Aussies are actually a good team as you cannot judge against such terrible oppo. They (notice i said they) play SA end of Feb and that will give a better indication of just how good they (and the terrible Mitchell Johnson)are. I dont think Oz could have batted like they did against us and still got a result in SA. SA would have ripped through the tail enders. Anyway, got the 1 dayers coming up soon and i assume (hope) its a completely diffrent squad. We need to restore some pride, even if we lose but go down fighting. Looking forward to it....OH...and did i mention that i hate that f**king Mitch "the Moustache" f-ing Johnson!!
Feeling your pain down here as bud. Australia are a bang average side but we were shockingly bad, the England boys can talk all they want about not throwing the towel in but they did exactly that. Cook is a cracking player, a run machine but not a captain, his average has dropped a fair amount since he took up the mantle. Who do we get in? Flower will have an idea I guess. As for Johnson, I've always thought he had all the attributes to be an exceptional bowler but he's undoubtedly mentally weak yet no one tried to get under his skin?! Get down the pitch and take the piss out of his mum for f@cks sake! Brad Haddin has always been a good batter but where was the aggression against him? Oh well Queens only another month of getting the piss ripped out of us!
Totally out played in all departments & who would have thought that, no spirit in the side top order blown away time after time, credit to aussies they bowled so well, but could have been so much better as several times we had them 5/6 down but couldn't get haddin out & thorn in our side, but i reckon writing was on the wall after home series because we wasn't convincing even though it was 3-0, bring in & blend in some youngsters & start afresh like the aussies have.
I think it really comes down to captaincy. England is now suffering the same problem (with Cook) that Australia had with Ponting. Both Countries promoted their best player to captaincy, yet both players were/are not natural captains. Ponting deficiencies were compensated for by the combined skills of the players he was lucky enough to Captain. Same for early in Cook's captaincy. Difference now, is Clarke's superior captaincy, with reasonable skill level of players, has shown up Cook's inadequacies as a captain.
The Australian wickets had bounce to suit real pace bowling We have not got a real pace bowler in this country like Johnson Broad was our only bowler who could bowl on these wickets Bowlers like Anderson who bowl swing are rubbish on these wickets Most of our batsmen had never faced someone of Johnson's speed on this sort of surface and it showed
Cricket is dead to the majority of the population who dont have sky. It will only get worse as theyve taken the short term cash grab and the future players will dry up as cricket doesnt get any FTA exposure. I used to watch cricket but never saw a single minute of this tour.
Just pathetic. Mind you I had to laugh Boycotts comments on Ballance who scored total 25 runs in 2 Innings "We were never in the contest from the first half hour, when they just blew us away. The best cricket from England came from the kids - Ben Stokes played very well, played straight and Gary Ballance did alright. I've always felt that he is mentally tough and has the heart for the challenge. He gets runs for Yorkshire when they are in trouble and I think that has helped get him on the tour. I'm glad he came through the baptism No Yorkshire bias then
Agree - Boycott made some cheap shots on some players who have done the business for England over the years but are woefully out of form - and oh yes Mr Boycott - Pietersen 8,181 runs against Boycott 8,114 - not bad for a "mug"
A few factors for me............. England were probably approaching the end of a good era for several of the players and the 3-0 ashes win in the summer only papered over the cracks. The Kookaburra ball never suits our bowlers who find it much more difficult to get it to swing. The loss of Mr reliable Trott was a huge loss. Cook is an awful Captain on many levels.......never seems to try anything new/totally dominated by the bowlers re field placings etc/a complete and utter whimp who never began to stand up to the ferocity hurled at us by the Aussies. He must go as Captain, but remain in the team imo.
Agree 100% - Recorded all highlight programmes - but didn't bother to watch a single one, completely pointless...
I think there were a couple of factors that swung the series totally Australia's way. The summer series was a lot closer than the 3-0 scoreline which flattered England greatly. Then the removal of Trott who should never have gone allied to the resurgence of Johnson on fast bouncy pitches swung the series comprehensively Australia's way. Add to that pivotal swing the superb Aussie back-up bowling from Harris, Siddle and Lyons against the abysmal form of Cook, Peitersen & Bell, our three senior batsmen and you have a complete rout. We've made the Aussies look like world-beaters again but they really aren't THAT good. Their next series is against South Africa who have the quality to meet fire with fire, if the Aussies whitewash the Springboks then I'll concede they really are that good, but the number of times we had them in trouble batting in their first innings and let them off the hook, usually through Haddin, suggests Steyn, Morkel and Philander will fill their boots with wickets...
Northern nerve ?? errr no, reality !! You really trying to tell me Pietersen has fulfilled his potential. And comparing Boycott's 8k runs, with Pietersen's - chalk and cheese. They play far more cricket these days, more opportunities to score runs; Boycott was an opener on less protected pitches, much tougher conditions.
Not my point at all. I just thought it was funny how boycott thought his fellow Yorkshireman did well when scoring a combined 25 runs. It was a comment on him. He was a man he played for himself and never the team
It sounds like you're saying we were the first side to have 10 wickets taken in every innings over a 5 match series. There must be more to it than that for it to be a record though. Otherwise it would mean that every side that had ever lost a series 5-0 before would have had to declare in at least one of their innings.
Yes mate, thats what I'm saying. i think the point is every side would have been completely bowled out before reaching the oppositions run total, or something similar. I'll speak to the guy who mentioned it to me today and clarify
Here you go Ric (others). I think this may have been what he was talking about. Not very great reading http://sports.ndtv.com/the-ashes-20...first-team-to-lose-by-a-5-0-margin-five-times
