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The end of Transfers?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Osvaldorama, Dec 17, 2013.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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  2. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

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    That would be fair. Massive change, but yeah, it makes sense.
     
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  3. MMJ

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    Could affect youth production, clubs would have absolutely no incentive in producing their own talent, though I suppose it would reach a point where they'd have to.
     
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  4. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

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    Does actually make sense. Will be very interesting to see if anything comes of this.
     
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  5. saintlyhero

    saintlyhero Well-Known Member

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    It's the next logical step following on from Bosman and the introduction of the transfer windows. I do agree that players should be allowed to move with similar to freedom to any other job, but the clubs will need to be safeguarded.

    The immediate concerns is how will money filter down the league pyramid?
    Should we then go to a salary cap?

    I do think this will be a big moment for world football, but it will need radical overhaul of the whole system which protects the interests of all clubs and not just those top clubs.
     
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  6. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

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    It would COMPLETELY change the game. Salary will dictate all. The only plus is that clubs would have to work harder to keep players happy.
     
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  7. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Can't see it working. Clubs won't be held to ransom and player's salaries will be slashed as a result, and they won't want that. Besides, for all the wonderful chat, when it comes down to cool hard cash and security, the earning players will take the rough with the smooth if it means they can keep taking home that secure, hugely inflated wedge.
     
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  8. jimmyb89

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    If this does happen then I think that players (as working under "normal working conditions" should be paid "normal" wages. Ridiculous how much they get paid as it is. And this would make clubs more equal, otherwise it'll only benefit "top" clubs.
     
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  9. saintlyhero

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    Think the opposite would be true if Transfer fees were scrapped tomorrow. They who pay the most will get the best players and it will become a bidding war and the players will enjoy the huge money currently earned by the top American sports stars
     
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    Absolutely. Free agency generally results in much higher salaries.

    It would also massively devalue having an academy, given that the player could at any point hand in their notice and depart with no compensation returned.
     
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  11. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    You wouldn't get smaller clubs making a profit any more like we did with oxo. A big club would just offer a better wage and he'd hand in his notice! I don't see how they could protect clubs in this type of instance, without some reimagined idea of a transfer fee.
     
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  12. Onionman

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    Except that their salaries will be based upon supply and demand. And, no matter what you may want to happen, there will be more demand for someone with RVP's skillset over the skills of a window cleaner, as not many people have the skills of RVP whereas any monkey can clean windows. So, footballers' salaries will remain stratospheric (and better players will be paid more than worse players). Salaries are not based upon working conditions but on relative scarcity.

    Vin
     
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  13. saintlyhero

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    There is the compensation entitlement of course which we benefited from on Bale. I'm sure a version of this would remain to compensate the clubs and make having a good academy pay. Although it would probably have to be a set value so as not to infringe upon a players right to move. So the compensation value would be the same for Shaw as it would for Lloyd James.
     
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  14. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    If players can just give notice then presumably clubs can as well. Might suit top players to be able to move at the drop of a hat, but most footballers with families would surely prefer to have the security of a 2-3 year contract.
     
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  15. TheRealOrangePeel - CRBA

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    Surely the simple way round this is to have a proviso tick box that allow clubs to "own" the player/contract and be able to sell it on - like any service contract. If they decide against it they have another standard employment contract at lower pay, I.e, peanuts.

    It would be utterly ridiculous for a player to swap sides a few times a season. Farcical.

    I have always thought how the transfer policy sat funny with EU employment rights. But there is always a way round it.
     
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  16. Saint Birdsnest

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    Yeah Fifpro, I feel so sorry for those exploited footballers being made to see out the contract they committed themselves to, with a monthly wage higher than the vast majority of us earn annually
     
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    Or... They'd have massive incentive to develop the own players as the only other way would be to compete in salary. Always a flip to everything
     
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    Or... Given that a small club won't be able to compete on wages, it would be even more imperative that it was bringing good players through each year.
     
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  19. Schad

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    It would need to be one hell of a production line, and academies are expensive...with most in the FL subsidizing their youth setup through the sales of players who have come through the ranks, it would be affordable only for those who stay above water in the Prem and are thus able to direct the TV money toward development. Clubs like Crewe would be eaten whole, bearing the cost of training them up before seeing them poached by teams at the higher tiers.
     
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  20. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Surely though......footballers are self employed? The contract they sign is surely a contract of engagement and not a contract of employment as such?
     
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