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O/T Clarke's done one

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Hull City AFC (HCHKR), Dec 14, 2013.

  1. Party Hull!

    Party Hull! Well-Known Member

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    Seems somewhat harsh on the boy Clarke this.

    Still learning, had some decent successes (admittedly not great lately) but he's no mug.

    Teams are panicking now. Good win for Cardiff yesterday, but I reckon Malky is only back-to-back defeats away from the sack too.

    This is frustrating from a Hull City AFC point of view, however, as the new/interim manager factor could make it hard for us next week.
     
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  2. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    Clarke getting sacked before BFS is mental.


    He'll be next.
     
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  3. Party Hull!

    Party Hull! Well-Known Member

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    Could be right there.

    I reckon he's close, plus Malky too.

    You've got to wonder, if they do go, who on earth really is there to replace them and do better?
     
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  4. GLP

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    I think it'll be Hughton next.
     
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  5. mazzer

    mazzer Well-Known Member

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    Don't like Clarke, but don't think he deserved this.
     
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  6. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    The following is a quote from yourself from May 2012, and which can be found here.

    As I said, that was March 2012, when our promotion charge under Barmby fell apart for various reasons. If there was any point at which you'd not rated Barmby during his reign that would have been it. Yet you offered him support and said the time to judge him would have been after he'd made some signings. The Allams sacked him and since then you've hated him.

    It took me a while to find that and I had to look through loads of your posts to find it but in doing so and seeing loads of others I think I've finally figured you out. It's not about Allams or name changes or any of that, you just don't like anyone moaning or negativity. Every post I found of yours was defending something which others were moaning about whether it was McLean, the club, or anything else. Now the moaning is directed at the ownership of the club, that's what you don't like. Your stance on the name change has obviously hardened since then but from looking back, it's clear that you took that stance because you just don't like to see others being negative about issues relating to City.

    The obvious response to this would be to take the piss and say I'm sad for looking back at your posts, but that's as clever and impressive as singing "Hull is a ****hole, I want to go home."
     
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  7. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    You've gone to all that effort to come up with? What exactly.

    tell you what you want to make people look a **** look at a few Alex Bruce threads and see what **** he got and then call em ****s, put their quotes in your signature whatever.
     
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  8. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Actually he has been placed on G.L. (Gardening Leave).

    It dont make a difference imo that Clarke has gone. WBA are a poor team full stop. imo.
     
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  9. PLT

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    I claimed that if Bruce was sacked, certain people (Happy knew I was talking about him) would defend the decision regardless of how good a job he's done.

    Happy denied it suggesting the Barmby situation was different.

    That quote demonstrates that his opinion on the Barmby sacking changed completely; that he'd actually defended Barmby at his lowest point in his managerial career with us, a point when a few others had started to turn on him and yet as soon as Allam sacked him his opinion changed completely and he hates Barmby now.
     
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  10. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Does he hate him?? I was never the greatest Barmby fan but wanted him to do well. I backed Allam when he was sacked. Some thought it was harsh but look hoe it turned out. Bruce is brilliant.

    I just had a quick shufty through my started threads and found a quote of yours,

    "Cullen has done pretty well since coming back into the team but I thought he was alright before that. The main criticism seems to be being offside too much, but he's only offside because he makes a lot of aggressive runs and he certainly isn't offside any more than Fryatt or McLean who, as I keep saying, can somehow manage to be offside while dropping back for the ball. Cullen has the air of a natural striker about him to me, the ability to get in good positions and he's a good clean striker of the ball. He probably couldn't hold it up like our first choice strikers but for natural goalscoring ability I think he is the man.

    EDIT: This is not a slant on Fryatt or McLean by the way, this is me saying I like Cullen.

    Its a ****ing message board we all spout **** at times. Its not a court of law. :emoticon-0150-hands

    Though i was right Mckenna was ****, Evans was ****. Pearson was a ****. Mclean was ****. Cullen was deffo ****. etc etc
     
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  11. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Shame on me for supporting the team and management eh?

    Until we had any actual info on what happened, I was perfectly happy to back Nick. I wanted him to succeed. Didn't you? Sorry if that offended up but thanks for clearly showing that to everyone. You're right, I don't jump on popular pitchfork waving bandwagons, never have, never will. I have my own mind and I weigh things up on what I see or know to be true.

    I never have, and still do not hate Barmby. I don't even hate Lloyd. Or Pearson. Or even Bartlett and Adam Pearson. I thought Nick was a good punt, I would have loved him to be good enough, he wasn't, then he deserved what he got in the end for his actions. Pure and simple really.

    Thanks for sharing that and making yourself look like a twat though.
     
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  12. PLT

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    I stand by that. Cullen was a natural finisher. Doesn't mean he's a Championship or PL striker. Don't know where he is now but I bet he's scoring goals somewhere. I've posted much worse than that.

    No shame in supporting the team no matter what, if it's consistent then fair enough even if it is a bit weird. It can't ever be consistent though can it? As that quote shows. If you support two people no matter what, then they fall out massively, you have to pick a side and that's what you did.

    Anyway you're evading the point as usual. You questioned my statement which was that certain people (you included) would back Allam sacking Bruce if he did it, and would pretend it was the best decision that you wanted all along. You denied it. The quote proved you change your views to suit an Allam-positive agenda. You can't deny that now.
     
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  13. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    You're embarassing yourself here. Fair enough if your drunk but give it up you look daft.
     
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  14. Hull City AFC (HCHKR)

    Hull City AFC (HCHKR) Well-Known Member

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    He's at Luton Town and scored 4 in 14.
     
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  15. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    I've honestly no clue what the hell you're on about now. You started off with a childish dig at me, which I responded to with more maturity than you deserve. You then accused me of being consistent, and positive in my support of the team, then claimed I am not because I can't be. I've responded to your points and explained what I base my personal judgements on, consistently.

    I don't understand why you're mocking my stance on supporting Nick when plenty of others didn't.

    I don't see why you need to make everything into a competition of choosing one side or the other. Dr Allam was right to ask Nick to manage initially, Nick was right to accept and gave it his best shot. It was the right thing (imo) to support Nick when he was managing the team, and not to get on his back, then later on Dr Allam was right to sack him when it didn't work out and there were issues that couldn't be resolved and trust had gone. Both, until the end, were trying to do the right thing for the club, and I supported them both. Sadly Nick was lacking at the end and he went. If they'd both been in the wrong, I would have said that, in my view, Nick was in the wrong. I don't care if you agree with me on that or not.

    Please be under no illusions at all, if Dr Allam did something I did not agree with, I would say so. So far he hasn't. If or when he does, you seem to be suggesting I shouldn't be entitled to call him on it. Its not like I'm going to say "I always knew he was evil", because, consistently, I have not done that ever. If he sacked Brucie on a whim with no reason, I will, I can assure you, be bloody livid. I don't think he would though.

    Just my view, but hey, I am at least consistent.
     
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  16. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    You need to do a bit more than that. Make a point if you've got one. You're far too good at participating in arguments and then just posting stuff like this instead of finishing it.

    Based on your first paragraph, you've misread the first paragraph of my last post. Re-reading it it makes perfect sense. There's no childish digs here at all, and with your track record that's a daft accusation to make. My point, as it has been throughout this thread is that if Allam over-reacted to a poor run of results and sacked Bruce some would support him. You denied it and I demonstrated how your view on a manager has changed in the past based on a desire to stay on Allam's side.

    I'm not mocking your stance on supporting Nick. I agreed with it and still do. It was that you had such a huge change in opinion so quickly that I'm criticising (not mocking at all, apologies if it comes across that way).

    I do disagree that you're consistent though. In the previously quoted post you say Barmby should be judged on his summer transfers and the following season (not yet aware that he'd be sacked of course). Yet in this post you say that "Sadly Nick was lacking at the end." That can't be consistent can it?

    Please don't take this as some attempt to take the piss or insult you. I don't really care for that. I'm trying to question your stance because I don't think it makes sense. I think there are very important issues at our club at the moment and instead of discussing what should be done about them we end up having daft arguments on here because of certain posters whose views seem to drag things out unnecessarily when really there is only one side to the argument. I'm breaking your argument down to question if it holds any merit. I don't think it does.
     
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  17. ellewoods

    ellewoods Well-Known Member

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    Lets hope they dont get a new manager for a few days and the bounce that you normally see with a new manager occurrs after our game with them.

    I also think it is a mad decision they arnt that badly off to be firing him at this point in the season.
     
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  18. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    how ****ing dare you make sense?
    you have to submit something that offends HappyTiger like the rest of the childish ****s on here
     
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  19. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I agree. I didn't think they were doing too badly based on their league position but their recent run of results was way worse than I realised, from a WBA perspective it might be a week early or might just be spot on, TWT as ever I guess.

    Have I upset you princess?? /hug
     
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  20. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Im deffo missing something here...

    At the start Nick was fine...during the summer he needed a chance to demonstrate why he knew what he was doing, I was at the time and still hold the view we needed to be behind him. At the end he was making bad decisions both on and off the field. 2 time frames, 2 views. I don't see why anyone should be expected to hold one view for ever. Nick did stuff at the end I didn't like, and he had to go. Before that, he was fine, and I supported him. Where's the problem with that?

    We're having daft arguments cos YOU posted a stupid comment aimed at me.
     
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