Unfortunately everything is for sale. Good point. England on a Friday night!! No chance for anyone outside London to go without taking a day off work and losing a days pay. How **** is a 5:30 Saturday night kick off!! ****ing awful.
You would've thought a "Devil's Advocate" might have understood this. Especially as Happy wrote "lol just kidding" at the end...
Hahahaha let's all laugh at this guy, you are the scummiest ****ing cretin I've ever come across. Honestly, what a sad **** you are. You're just another **** on this forum that is so full of braindead idiots You are that far up your own arse to realise the need to just shut up you muppet, this is not the point of this thread. You sad twat, ****, **** off you ****ing mug.
If you sell something you generally expect a monetary return. If Mr. Allam wants to sell off our name he should be able to provide some evidence of the return expected. As he has admitted that he has not yet even researched whether a return is possible yet tells his current customers they can do one, it doesn't really come across as a sound business proposition.
Apologies for interjecting between all the petty squabbling but I especially liked this from Greavsie "If Hull Tigers is waved through then what is to stop a foreign owner taking over Tottenham and renaming them the London Cocks?". I'm guessing that most of their supporters will have already re-named them this after a 5-0 home demolition by the poor team from Merseyside, yeah the one that we demolished a couple of weeks ago.
I'm not pro name change but here's a reason for changing the name. Hull City does not own enough assets to borrow against. It has to have something for investors to invest in. The Clubs name is the only asset that can be easily converted into anything of value in the short term. Money cannot be ploughed into the club like it has been before, so it's actually quite a normal business practise to look at the value placed on any form of branding. Fail to see the other side of the argument and you fail to be in a position to oppose it. No one yet has come up with any alternative short term plan that can possibly bring in investment ip within the new rules. So here's the challenge, instead of knocking those that say Assam Allam can do what he wants, why don't you come up with an investable plan?
Or accept that we can't raise the money without pimping our club, and therefore accept we are Hull City AFC at whatever level we can play at. We would become the laughing stock of football, if we sold our name for some transient non existent foreign **** for brains tycoon and his bizarre whims.
ass-all's investable plans ================== 1 annoy current customers. 2 change name to hull tigers. 3 get hull players building boat engines. 4 change name to all tigers. 5 take over grimsby town. 6 rename to grimsby mariners. 8 rename hull to allam tigers. 9 get grimsby players building boat engines 10 merge allam tigers and grimsby mariners. 11 sell boat engines. 12 shorten name from allam tigers and grimsby mariners to allam marine. 13 clean up in asian boat engine market.
I would suggest the name has more value in its current form than any new one. That, in conjunction with our nickname, should give Mr. Allam everything he needs to be able to sell the "brand" to foreign shores.
Allam's aim is denying the council the right to 'bask in our glory', and he thinks pissing off thousands of loyal supporters, and driving many away from football altogether, is a price worth paying. Even if he did genuinely want to bring in millions by 'breaking into the Asian market', it's patently obvious to anyone with a brain that he has more chance of breaking a nun's hymen.
Is there any evidence to suggest that there'd be a substantial difference in investment into the name Hull Tigers rather than Hull City AFC, The Tigers? For me the proposed name change is bugger all to do with raising investment but rather as a consequence of AA's spat with the council. A plan, therefore, maybe for AA to swallow some pride, reopen negotiations with the council, discuss plans & investment opportunities as adults, Councillors & businessmen, showing each other respect & compromise, reach an agreement regarding the development of the ground, surrounding land & any future investments that will be beneficial to AA, Hull City AFC & Kingston Upon Hull. The opportunity is there it just requires grown ups to realise its fruition.
School boy error there Omegaman, attempting to make any reasoned argument on this forum. Apparently the way forward is to live within our means at whatever level that is, so attendance falls to less than 5000 and a supermarket opens in the North Stand and we face the risk of again being eclipsed by Scunthorpe and Grimsby. After all that has been quite a large part of Hull City AFC's tradition and heritage. It also will gets the mods on your case.
Am I standing in the way of progress? No, I am not. Did you protest vigorously about the Dons? Or didn't you care?
A plan, therefore, maybe for AA to swallow some pride, reopen negotiations with the council, discuss plans & investment opportunities as adults, Councillors & businessmen, showing each other respect & compromise, reach an agreement regarding the development of the ground, surrounding land & any future investments that will be beneficial to AA, Hull City AFC & Kingston Upon Hull. Didn't AA attempt this way back when trying to get a joint venture going with HCC, they baulked at putting the KC up as their part of the arrangement. Thus began the need to seek alternative revenue streams.
If Mr. Allam wanted to reason the argument he would explain where the extra revenue will come from. The only evidence I have seen to date will result in loss of revenue when his customers walk away. Why would anyone want to give up their name just because one person, without any evidence and against the advice of just about everyone in football and sports marketing, thinks it is the only way forward. I have said from day one that Mr. Allam could kill the campaign dead by producing anything that shows financial benefit from a name change. As it stands, his belligerence is damaging the club, and his dividing of the fans could prove to be the most foolhardy business decision in our history.
