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City TILL we die?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by TreeHugger, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. TreeHugger

    TreeHugger Well-Known Member

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    Why do the CTWD website, scarves, etc use the word 'till'?

    Surely in this context the word is the shortened version of until and should therefore be 'til? A till is a cash register.
     
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  2. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    till1
    tɪl/Submit
    preposition & conjunction
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    less formal way of saying until.
    synonyms: until, up to, up till, up until, as late as, up to the time of/that, until such time as, pending;
     
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  3. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    I think CTWD needs a rebrand now.

    CTASTN - City Till Allam Shortens The Name

    It's got massive global appeal and will make millions.
     
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  4. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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  5. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    It didn't come to me before but it should be CTNC - City Til Name Change. We could sing that at games too and it's bound to bring millions of world wide support for the cause.
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Nup. Ive had this discussion professionally before and I was firmly in your camp, that it should be 'til. I have to concede that after much research and debate I was proven wrong and it's till. Still doesn't make sense to me though, how can an abbreviated word gain an extra letter at the end?
     
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  7. Oregon Tiger

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    It should be City WHILE we die. "While" is often in the local vernacular instead of "until". (e.g., "When will it be ready?" "Not while 5"). I remember when I first started in software engineering and learned "while" and "until" loops. The teacher said that us Hull folk often got them the wrong way round in programs.
     
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  8. TreeHugger

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    I now see I'm incorrect. Just looks really wrong to me.
     
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  9. Boothferry2Wembley

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    May I suggest you pop along to Ambernectar where you will be very welcome.
     
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  10. Walter Sobchak

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    Its a west yorkshire thing to say while, people in east say till.
     
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  11. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    I disagree - in my experience 'while' is said all over Hull and the East Riding.
     
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  12. bum_chinned_crab

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    Definitely. I'd never heard while in that context until I moved to Leeds:
    Them: "Im at work 8 while 5"
    Me: "What the **** you on about, dickhead?"
     
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  13. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

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    You're getting as bad as Party with all this aggression.

    You need to go on a Chillaxathon.

    Yep, a chillaxathon.

    I made that word up, feel free to use it. A man of your intelligence can work out what it means.
     
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  14. captain caveman

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    Could that be the new chant? "City until such time as we cease to respire"
     
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  15. x

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    language is a fluid thing.

    anyone still put an apostrophe at the front of 'bus or 'phone? come on, own up.
     
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  16. Carmine Galante.

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    Can't says I do mate.

    I agree with language being an organic entity.
    It still needs free thinkers to allow it to flourish, to feed it and give it the nourishment it needs.

    That's why I have taken to inventing new words.

    I only have one under my belt( see above post from me).

    In fact that's not true. I once saw a woman who looked rodent like and I couldn't decide whether she looked like a rat or a weasel so made up the word ratsel. A combination of both you see!

    Chillaxathon and ratsel are my contribution to expanding the English language thus far.

    They'll probably be in the Oxford English this time next year.
     
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  17. Pennine Tiger

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    I remember reading years ago, that when unmanned level crossings were first used in the Hull area, the signs said "wait while red light flashes". This nearly led to some near misses, as local motorists translated the sign to mean "Wait until red light flashes".
     
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  18. bum_chinned_crab

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    You misunderstand, that was a direct quote I said when I moved to Wessieland 14 years ago. Now I'm the epitome of calm since I learned to enjoy a daily Chillaxathon.
     
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  19. Carmine Galante.

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    Glad go hear it.

    I'm in the middle of a chillaxathon right now.

    I can't be arsed to even have a shower.
     
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  20. DMD

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    So not quite a golden moment then?
     
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