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Comparing Spurs

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  1. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    A lot of Spurs fans are said to be pissed off with AVB and longing for the return of Harry. These are their moans:

    Lots of tight, boring 1-0 wins

    Lots of possession but no cutting-edge

    Can't get the balance right

    Negative, safety-first tactics

    Sounds familiar?...
     
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  2. Queenslander!!

    Queenslander!! Well-Known Member

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    Now Bale has gone they are pretty average....
     
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  3. Wherever

    Wherever Well-Known Member

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    Spurs fans are a bunch of whinging twats never know how lucky they are, feck 'em
     
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  4. QPR999

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    I was reading this article from the Savage one, and couldn't help but draw the same comparisons. Read through it and try to replace Redknapp with Warnock, and then replace AVB with Redknapp... If you get what I mean? ( You may also have to replace Spurs with QPR and the players names too.. etc etc.. )

    Robbie Savage on Tottenham: Great entertainers under Harry Redknapp, they just grate with AVB
    28 Nov 2013 22:30
    You can't tell me the players who are serving up such boring football are no good, so Andre Villas-Boas is the problem

    Boring, boring Tottenham.

    There you go – someone needed to say it, so it might as well be me.

    If Andre Villas-Boas wants to know why his job suddenly came under such heavy scrutiny this week, it wasn’t just about the six-goal hammering Spurs took at Manchester City.

    It’s because Tottenham have gone from English football’s great entertainers under Harry Redknapp to being plain dull to watch.

    Only Crystal Palace and Sunderland - aka, the bottom two clubs - have scored fewer Premier League goals than the nine in 12 games Spurs have managed so far this season. And three of those nine were dodgy penalties.

    I’m not interested in their Europa League win over Tromso. I don’t care if they saw the Northern Lights or if they managed to build any snowmen in the Arctic Circle.

    Ultimately, Villas-Boas will be judged on whether the White Hart Lane club qualify for the Champions League come May. And based on what I’ve seen so far this campaign, they have no chance.

    It is never a good thing for any side to lose their best player, as Tottenham did when selling Gareth Bale to Real Madrid.

    AVB spent £110million on a major overhaul of his squad, and it was always going to take time for seven new signings to bed in at White Hart Lane.

    But I don’t think he is getting the best out of them.

    The players he brought in during the last transfer window do have real quality – nobody is going to tell me that Paulinho, Roberto Soldado, Etienne Capoue, Vlad Chiriches, Erik Lamela, Nacer Chadli and Christian Eriksen can’t play.

    Which means they are not being deployed in the right permutations, or the right formations, to realise their potential – and that’s down to the manager.

    On Match of the Day 2 last weekend, after their 6-0 loss to Manchester City, Alan Shearer and I highlighted how little Soldado has been getting into the box - the place where the best centre-forwards ply their trade.

    And we highlighted how wingers Lamela and Aaron Lennon are being forced to cut inside - instead of taking on their full-backs and getting round the back of defences - because there are not enough Spurs players in the penalty area to get on the end of their crosses.

    At times you could have thrown a blanket over their four most advanced players.

    I can’t remember the last time I found Tottenham so humdrum to watch.

    It’s certainly a far cry from the flair and fantasy of Bale, Luka Modric and Rafael van der Vaart in Redknapp’s side.


    Tottenham supporters don’t expect to win the title. But they have been brought up on the traditions of Bill Nicholson, the skills of Glenn Hoddle and Paul Gascoigne, the goals of Jimmy Greaves, Clive Allen and Gary Lineker, and they must be wondering how you can spend £110m for so little entertainment.

    AVB seems welded to his preferred 4-2-3-1 formation, but it is not opening teams up.

    Tottenham’s build-up is too slow, too pedantic and, yes, boring.

    When you are at home to the likes of Hull, why play two holding midfielders in front of the back four? What are you holding? Why does the back four need extra protection against a lone striker?

    Now Villas-Boas has a huge game against Manchester United on Sunday, and he knows the pressure will increase if Tottenham do not perform with more urgency.

    Nine goals in 12 games tells its own story.

    Spurs have been boring to watch lately, and that lies at the root of their manager’s problems.



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  5. JudoRanger

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    Never understood why Spurs sacked Redknapp, the football they were playing was superb. Just one blip after the England job had been linked with him.

    However, I did expect us to be playing better, and more open football under Redknapp. Although I don't care how we do it, as long as we go up. 1-0 wins all season are fine with me after the dreadful two seasons we had before in the PL! Its nice just to win games again.

    Spurs can't have Harry back!
     
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  6. Stroller

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    When you are at home to the likes of Hull, why play two holding midfielders in front of the back four? What are you holding? Why does the back four need extra protection against a lone striker?

    Col?
     
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    Absolutely, apart from my mate Steve, who is quite normal.
     
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  8. rangercol

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    I agree with what you're saying there, but I think Managers often play 5 in midfield to make sure that they're not out-numbered by the opposition's 5.
    However. there is a case for playing 4-1-3-2 at home against inferior opposition as your better players should win the day. A half-way house would be 4-4-1-1.

    I must admit that I'm coming round to that way of thinking when we're at home against lesser sides like Charlton. We could have played 4-1-3-2 against Charlton and I think we would have blown them away, although there's no doubt that they would have probably had more chances against us. (Although I do think that we'd need to play Henry in a 4-1-3-2.......not everyone's favourite R!!)
     
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    4-1-3-2 would be a big improvement. We've got to get more players forward - attack is the best form of defence.
     
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  10. Flyer

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    We dont have too many true attacking midfielders to go in the middle of a 4231 so we could have the 3 consisting of Barton, Oneill, Jenas etc and one sitting behind, ideally that would have been faurlin but we have no choice but to play the donkey if we go with that formation.

    The only time we looked horrible against charlton was when we went 451 so that begs the question to why we are so defensive when we looked so much better in a 4231 and 442 in that game. We even looked better with Henry in the middle with Barton than in a 451. Thats how bad the 451 was.
     
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  11. Wherever

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    I didn't mean Steve
     
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  12. DaveThomas

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    Henry is one of my favourite players without doubt ... He should be praised IMO ... Holds the whole lot together and plays that role very well

    Don't agree with any idea if changing formation you can't praise Harold then demand he plays a different way

    Short memories on here as we controlling games with possession and making chances we fluff on a too regular basis ... It's our teeth that need a sharpen IMO ... It's really that simple lads

    Average games have us down at 60%

    That is not a mistake

    Other teams can't score without the ball

    We are growing

    We don't need two up top from the start IMO ... It's after 60 mins we need to look at change at the earliest

    Wear them down and step up a gear IMO and put these chances away

    As for Spurs more fool them as said before the AVB is one useless prat tortoise ****pig
     
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  13. District Line

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    I'm not the biggest Redknapp fan but always found his sides entertaining to watch, complete opposite with AVB.
     
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