in the greater scheme of things the poll is insignificant, its purpose is best served to promote this forum on twitter and elsewhere and thats not a bad thing as its not a bad forum and Elland works hard to keep it that way. but you and others continue to promote assumptions and opinions as though its irrefutable truth or at the very least carries some degree of credibility which is a shame as it detracts from the quality (and there is some in there) of the constructive criticisms in your argument. you have every right to your opinion, every right to voice it and every right to expect me and LUST to listen to it but please if you want truthful answers based upon actual facts or even the highest percentage of probability then dont base your argument on incorrect and biased assumptions mate.
Gary, did you get a response from Millwall about the letter of complaint you (LUST) sent re the nasty songs our orrible fans were singing that hurt your feelings?
yes, it basically said 'tough', Leeds fans are to blame, and millwall is innocent, no surprise really. much more constructive responses from the Met and BTP which i am sure Steve will talk about tonight, if he is emotionally able of course!
Go away GC ... this post is not your political forum, leave the fans alone ... go to the LUST thread and answer questions there please
would those be the politcal questions you are asking mate eh? listen to the meeting tonight, your questions will be answered but dont tell me to go anywhere mate, i have as much right here as anyone else.
This was hardly scientific and I wasn't leaping up and down when it was 10-4 in the negative. As someone else said the better poll would have been would lust be better without GC. Hell even I think lust is a good idea in principle. It's only crap because the leader doesn't have any.
Bit harsh to tell him to go away and only stick to one thread, this is a public forum after all I'm not gonna answer the question "would LUST be better without GC?" because I think that is an impossible thing to answer. What I will say though is that LUST can be a good thing, this is the reason I voted undecided. They have done some good work but they need to stay away from what happens at board level at Leeds United imo. Do things for the fans rather than trying to make decisions about how the club is run, stop releasing things to the press which they have no involvement in and let the appropriate people do that at the right time. Unless there is an overall distress about the club and its owners I would stay away from that area and continue to help the fans with their issues like the stuff they have done with the police, LCC and people who have been banned (although I'm still not sure that someone who gets a lifetime ban deserves to have that revoked, afterall it is a 'lifetime' ban). Or do LUST think they are more important than they are?
Now now this is a Leeds United forum and welcomes all Leeds United fans regardless of how you believe the club should be run. We accepted pro-Bates fans at one point remember...
I don't understand anti-GC people they never provide reasons for their dislike of him apart from that he's gets alot of publicity but surely that's part of the parcel of been chairmen of the supporters trust of a major football club?
But wasn't it last summer we wanted clear transparency about how the club is been run? Now we want the businessmen to be left completely uninterrupted to run the club? Surely LUST provides a fan-based insight into the running of the club. I just believe people like playing devil's advocate and that with Bates gone and GFH running the club surprisingly well they want a new reason to be miserable old sods.
Well some people wanted clear transparency. I have always actually said that clear transparency can cause more problems than it solves, the huge majority don't understand how a football club is run so why do we need to know intricate details about how Leeds United are being run. If it is working then, for me atleast, then why question it. Once it isn't working then you can question it. I feel LUST are always trying to catch GFH out on stuff, there is no need because as you say GFH are running the club surprisingly well. Even Whitejock is saying he doesn't believe David Haigh because he disagreed with something LUST said. Realistically I think that LUST should only have contact with GFH regarding fan issues and not issues about how the club is run or potential investors or consortiums trying to takeover the club. All I want from LUST is for them to take a back seat for a while.
Also, just another point. When I say clear transparency can cause more problems than it solves, that doesn't mean that I don't want appropriate and often communication from the club's owners.
we have nowt to do with consortiums or telling GFHC how to run the club, why do you keep repeating what i have already told you is untrue? i just dont get it mate.
I'm not saying you have anything to do with a consortium or how to run the club, I'm saying you release information to the media about potential investors/consortiums and information about the running of the club, there is a difference. I think it is best to leave that alone and if it happens it will be released by the right people at the right time.
Spot on Josh, let the club release statements as they see fit instead of being gazumped by a supporters trust, if we can really call it that!!
then your wrong again mate, we did not release any information, it came from 'the city talking' not from LUST?
With some quick research all I can find is you talking about the Radebe consortium before he released his statement and confirmed it however you did not release that information. However you have done this in the past with the GFH takeover, you were talking as if you were heavily involved with this and I'm yet to see any evidence to suggest this, in fact didn't GFH say that they had no prior contact with LUST before the takeover had been completed? Either way, whether you have or haven't do you agree with me that it is best to leave that stuff alone and concentrate more on issues directly involving fans? Or do you have an interest in concerning yourself with this side of the club?
This is the item that was in the hands of an independent party that was going to be released after the TO was completed. Then it was going to be the subject of a movie, now... (I don't really know), For me it just does not matter anymore. I have moved on. Just got to figure out how I can get deleted from the member list.
