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  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Why do people keep claiming that everyone around them refused to join in with the chanting? Don't you think some of us were there and saw for our selves the unanimous support the chants got? These claims of dozens not joining in, in several areas of the ground, are as embarrassing as Allam's claims that it's just a minority of 200.

    Why would he do any of this?

    Can you explain this? Singing loudly harms the team?

    God knows. None of it makes any sense. If he isn't against the council that would raise more questions than it answers...
     
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  2. City1904

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    I never got this how does us singing City Til I Die affect the team?

    Its like the type at Stoke away they claimed the police trying to break up fights in the Stoke end affected the team negatively, of course it didn't.

    If us singing City Til I Die is affecting the players, they are not concentrating on their job properly, it should have a positive affect as our clubs name is Hull City and we are singing for them!
     
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  3. philhul

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    Firstly...to be clear...I support the CITD campaign however there are some real ****ers who come on here spouting repetitive rhetoric (not you).
    My point is that AAs cash/financial commitments are already in place therefore part of the family gold is at risk. We went through a similar scenario with the Needlers when Christopher did not have the same passion or vision as his father or want to further spend any inheritance.

    Your second paragraph is the key one....if we don’t want the slow decline we have to find the cash - we will get nothing from the council nor realistically big investment from local people to build the "lasting legacy". The question is are we, at this moment in time, better off with or without him? His marketing vision maybe wrong, both locally and internationally, but do we bite the bullet - take the cash- and correct all the errors when he has gone !
     
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  4. it's me I have arrived!!!!!

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    Maybe those few around us that did bother to stand and sing with the city til we die chant hadn't had their view of the actual game (the actual reason why most of us are there) restricted by a flag or banner being paraded over our heads or in front of us obstructing our view.
     
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  5. PLT

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    Were you sat in the footwell at the bottom of the stand?
     
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  6. it's me I have arrived!!!!!

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    Then I don't think your view could really have been obscured by the flag which was below pitch level.
     
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  8. Cortez91

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    Well since you said "please", I'm sure the protest will end. Back to normal proceedings lads!
     
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  9. it's me I have arrived!!!!!

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    This forum used to be all about football now that's seems to be the least talked about subject which is such a shame as it was fun to read now it's just boring!
     
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  10. Cortez91

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    Says the person who made this thread.

    Practice what you preach!
     
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    If you missed more than two minute out of the 90+ I would be surprised. The game was **** anyway and City played worse than a Sunday League side. It is the worse performance I have seen all season. Christ they played better against Southampton, it was totally embarrassing and I fear a cricket score against Liverpool next week
     
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  12. PLT

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    So you aren't a newbie then?
     
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    Below pitch level!!! LOL!!

    Blind as well as thick!
     
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    Oh he's a smart cookie that Mr Allam. "The supporters will vote with their feet" so we don't need a referendum argument is a sure way of stacking the odds in his favour. People want to watch their team and he knows they want to watch good quality so they are unlikemly to boycott games 'en masse'. He knows very well that he's looking at hooking the new generation with no memory of Fer Ark and the struggles of the fairly recent past, so he can boost the numbers with the young.

    But, Mr Allam you can't just airbrush 'City' from history; a history you have no time or respect for jusdging by your recent TV interviews. The vast majority talk about "How City played today", "City were crap", "City are going down". Do you really think we're going to start referring to the team as The Tigers in this manner?

    How about regaining a lot of your capital by selling shares to the supporters?

    Clubs like Arsenal and Swansea have done this to varying degrees.

    Preferably sell 51% so the supporters retain 'City' in the name, however..
     
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  15. PLT

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    It was in the footwell which is below pitch level for the exact reason that people walking across it don't spoil anyone's view. You know the world isn't completely flat right?
     
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    Two things appear obvious today. Firstly the vast majority Don't support the name change -even Mr Allan must have seen that, secondly the flag waving was embarrassing and didn't help the cause!!!
     
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    Flag waving?
     
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    I would dispute that. I sit in the East Stand opposite our dugout. From the beginning more people than usual sang City till I Die. I was wearing a CTID scarf and had a quick chat with some people around me who were not wearing badge or scarf. Even so they all agreed they did not want a name change. People in this country are not normally protesters, it doesn't come naturally but that does not mean they agree with Allam. When the flag was passed over the East stand it stopped short of E7 but was well applauded. If anyones view was obstructed it could have only been for a few minutes, like the times when the row in front has to stand to let someone out to go to the loo or whatever. The banner on the walkway was applauded. Didn't see exactly what happened in the corner just heard a load of people booing and then the place erupted. People around me who do not normally stand up and sing actually stood up and were singing City till I Die. I saw people in the South Stand doing the same (not sure about the West). It was amazing to be part of. BUT although I fully support the campaign we must be careful because any protest group will attract those that are just there for the fight and love to cause trouble. I felt a bit uneasy when the bloke without a shirt covered in tatoos was walking up and down in triumph and the banner was paraded again and again. I was cringing really and thinking "Ok thats enough now don't let it get out of hand. Fantastic support today but beware of the hooligan element latching on and spoiling things.
     
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    The introduction of the flags was far from pointless or embarrassing. Yes, the stewards intervention made a hash of it and made it look worse than it was, but it showed how united the City fans are on this subject. The noise around the Stadium when the fans fought back for the flag and the chorus's of "City Till I Die" and "Everywhere we go, everyone will know, we're Hull City" were deafening. The North and South stands joined in (maybe even go as far to say a couple of people in the West too).

    If anything can be drawn from today's protesting, is the fact that there is virtually no fan support for Allam's "Hull Tigers" régime. He will have seen that today, and will have started to get worried I reckon. Expect to see a few "I will not back down" press stories from Allam interviews in the coming days.
     
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    I'd like to see the local media press him for more comment from him when possible in the aftermath of this. "Do you accept it's not a minority now?" Etc. I reckon he'd be happy to talk. Even though we pretty much know he's going to carry on being a dick about it he can't just be left to carry on ignoring everyone without question. BBC and HDM need to keep pressing him for explanation.
     
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