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O/T DO 2 Wrongs Make A Right?

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by johnnywarksmoustache, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    No, I'm not saying this chap should or shouldn't have got a life sentence either. Believe it or not I wasn't at the trial and I am not a judge so I wouldn't like to sentence him, if that's alright <ok>
     
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  2. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    One thing is for sure Hampy... I know damn well that the Taliban are not acting to the letter of the Geneva convention! This Marine in my opinion.should be given proper care and rehab not thrown in jail and treated like a common criminal <ok>
     
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  3. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure this goes on all the time. The fact of the matter is this chap was unfortunate enough to get caught. Incidentally I'm not in favour of all our troops and police officers wearing these helmet cams, they need to be allowed to get on with the job without eyes on them at every second.
     
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  4. stretchyboy

    stretchyboy Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, Tony Blair, and our other esteemed politicians, did not force this, and other Marines/soldiers to join the service and fight. How i see it, if you sign up for the army..then in effect you are signing your death warrant.
    I do tho think we need to do more on a counselling perspective for our troops once they return, as i agree the trauma of what they have been through and seen is uncomprehendable.
    But, even still, this doesn't justify cold blooded murder, which, if this marine HAS committed, then he needs to be punished.
     
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  5. ciderman

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    You will never know what was happening so leave it at that.
     
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  6. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    I think ciderman has it covered TBH..
     
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  7. DUNDEE BLUE

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    There you go passing judgement on subjects you know **** all about . I have been in theatres of war as a serving soldier and its no picnic . These terrorist twats deserve all they get . You can't start a fight then moan about how hard you get hit . You lose friends every day and these guys become like family . How would you react if your "family" was targeted day in day out like this . Tell you what go and sign up for a couple of years . Will be interesting to read your opinions on here when you get back . Bet you they won't be the same
     
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  8. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Dundee, I hear what you're saying but frankly that argument justifies the very thing you are supposed to be fighting. I can be certain I would not behave in this way under any circumstances, but then I am not the kind of person who would choose to sign up to kill people in the first place <ok>
     
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  9. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I think this just proves that Dundee is absolutely right!

    Yorkie I am simply amazed by your ignorance.

    Being a soldier is not all about killing people FFS!
     
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  10. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    No of course it doesn't, but it is in the job description. You are agreeing to put yourself at the will of idiots like Tony Blair and George Bush.

    Nothing on this thread proves anything.

    The premise and justification of the war is apparently a war on terror.

    The idea goes that the Taliban are barbaric terrorists that we need to defeat. That we are apparently better people. If we go around murdering them in cold blood we're no better.

    The fact of the matter is that the biggest threat to us on this island comes from extremists who are already here and they are reacting to the actions of people like this marine.

    I'm not saying it's a picnic, I'm not singling out the motives of any soldier, but if it's alright to go around murdering anyone we choose like pigs, if it's ignorance not to think that it's ok then the human race has already gone to hell. Thankfully that isn't the case though and that's why he is getting a jail term for the crime he committed.
     
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    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    The Taliban are ruthless bad bastards who think nothing of attempting to kill young girls for having the temerity of getting an education! they justify their heinous acts of barbarism by doing these evil things in the name of Islam! The Muslim faith is a peaceful enlightened religion and the Taliban are just evil bastards. <ok> Our guys are facing these bastards on a daily basis and the rules of fair play and cricket do not apply to evil scum like this.
     
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  12. Mike_Holmes1990

    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    I'm with Hampy on this.

    We celebrate and thank our soldiers for agreeing to face these conditions and expect them to represent Britain in the right way. Thats why there is such an intensive selection and training programme. The issue is not the killing of a member of the Taliban, it's the way the soldier went about it. JWM, would you also defend the actions at the Abu Grahib prison?
     
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