Smug, I nearly got a hiding playing up your way once, Eden Colliery Welfare ground (I think), went to take a throw in, a little dog came running up to me so I bent down to stroke it and it bit me on the bloody hand, I threw the ball at it and the crowd turned on me, it wasn't you was it?
I said if we lost at home to the Scum we were down. I also said if we won it could just give us the platform to survive. Long way to go yet but things are looking up.
I had virtually written us off, but what the **** do i know. Seems their is life left in them yet. Not getting carried away yet, it was only City we beat, no big deal ps, aye yer a twat.
After 8 relegations in 40 years it's all too easy to become despondent when you lose 7 put of the first 8 games of a season. Your an old git the same as me ( although I'm only 49) and you will have witnessed plenty of failed regimes the sane as me. I don't believe you Smug if you didn't honestly think we we were Donald Ducked as well 4 weeks ago and his each individual responds or reacts to that position is entirely personal. Under PDC I absolutely totally belidved It certainly doesn't make you any better, more loyal or more clever than anyone rise that Poyet has breathed new life into a dead campaign. I can take as much and be as happy if not more that we have won against the filth and City, despite your best efforts.
Not only did I believe we'd get out of it, I stated it time and again on here and elsewhere. I explained why and not just because I 'had a feeling'. I always said there was a team, in that squad, that could give us a chance. I've posted this as a 'told you so' just as the doom mongers always take the opportunity to do when things go 'their way'. It seems to be that some people see themselves as 'better and more clever' when they're ridiculing those who still believe but can't take it in the same way they dish it out. The doom mongers love to crow about how they were right ..... but when they're proved wrong they always come back with the old 'come on we're all in this together as Sunderland supporters', routine I've pointed it out many times before and actually predicted recently, on here, that when we started to recover we'd all be told to forget what some people said. I don't forget .............
Yes you are a twat..and two more wins could well mean we are out of the bottom 3, and the wins could also help our awful goal diff. Facts of course change opinions..I would say atm we are still one of the favourites to go down..but the more wins we get the more we increase out chances of staying up. Some points between now and Christmas and if we escape the bottom 3, and then in January recruit at least two quality players, CM and a striker..we as you say smug may be moving up the table. However I for one do not count chickens until they are hatched...but I did really enjoy yesterday not just for the win but for the performance in how we defended and how we played ,we actually had possession and passed the ball.
The mob have spoken ......... I'm certainly not counting my chickens and thinking we're safe mate, just as I didn't believe we were doomed a few weeks back. I believe that doom mongering brings everyone down, in some way, and some people seem to enjoy that for a reason I just don't understand. In my simple minded view we all have a responsibility to everyone to keep spirits up. That's obviously very easy to do when things are going well and everyone wants to join in.
Cest as my post above says, you are right to argue that you are being deluded if you think our position in the league does not make us one of the favourites to go down. However new facts change opinions and odds, the more wins we get the less likely we are to go down. It will take at least two more wins to get us out of the bottom 3 and a lot more wins to move us up the table. I am sure I am not alone in liking what I saw yesterday, Poyet seems a good football man. I like the possession we had and I liked the 4-1-4-1 system we played against Chitty. He also showed good tactical awareness in that although Johnston had a pretty good game, his defensive frailties were being exposed by Navas who was putting in dangerous crosses in at will, so Poyet shuffled his midfield around brought on Gardner and put Jack to stop Jesus Navas crosses iirc it worked. So we have the Indian sign over Chitty at our place..I think we have Stoke away next..never an easy game...but at least we are proving to be a tough team at home and we now can boast at least one clean sheet!
I'm here - I said before the Mags game - if we lost it we were doomed - if we won it we had a chance of getting there but only a slim one. Now we are all looking up at those clubs looking backwards over their shoulders at us and saying "keep watching as we're gunning for you"
Any team who has the start that we have had tends to get relegated. That was my logic! Add to this the turmoil behind closed doors that we have had to endure, plus the awful gutless performances, I had us as certs for relegation, as with the rest of the football world! Yesterdays performance has given me hope, not expectations of survival though! We need to pick up our performances away from home instead of rolling over or self destructing! We beat Newcastle then went bloody tonto against Hull! Hope history doesn't repeat itself! Our away fixtures are winnable! Gotta start winning them!
All of a sudden, no one will be looking forward to playing Sunderland ........... not even the likes of Chelsea who still have to come to the SOL.
This! It is this that gives me hope! Hopefully teams are gonna have to start working hard in order to beat us!
Exactly, you had more faith than me Smug, but you have shown that faith all season. I manage crisis by taking little steps and that's the way I view this season, a series of short term targets. In the history of league football, every team has a good and bad spell during the season. Teams like Cardiff and Hull will have as bad a spell as we have just endured, hopefully that's ours out of the way. When the fixtures came out, there was a thread on here predicting our points tally up to the end of November, posters said anything from 4-11 points, because of our home games, well we have 7 points on the 10th November so it shouldn't be such a disappointment as it feels right now. We have games coming up that are winnable and Poyet has the side set up correctly so I am confident we will drag ourselves out of the mire, I am not sure DiCanio would have got us out, but he's history now. Onwards and upwards.
