Someone managed to talk him out of what would have been an insane move. The appeals system is there for clear miscarriages of justice, not for subjective borderline calls like that. If they had appealed, not only would they have probably got an extra game added to the ban, but I believe it would have meant his ban wouldn't take effect until the appeal was heard, costing them the chance to use the League Cup game as one of the banned games. So he would have missed 4 league matches, whereas now he will just miss 2.
It's a daft situation. You should have to take bans in the competition you committed the infringement in. So if you are sent off in the Premier League, you suspension has to be served in the Premier League.
I can see your point, but at least Sagbo had the Orient game to eat up one of his suspension matches.
true, but can you imagine a player getting a crazy long match ban for something disgusting, then playing in the FA Cup final a few days later?
Also, a player who gets sent off in an FA Cup 5th round match in February could miss the final in May if his three-match ban applied only to that competition. That would be a little odd.
Yes. As long as there is such a MASSIVE difference between Cups and League competitions, the penal system is degraded. It's like driving offences which is also unfair. How is it right that you have a flat £60 fine for driving misdemeanors when there is such a massive difference in society in people's ability to pay such fines?
Diverging a little, the driving analogy's an interesting one, as it's in place of common law, which was more compensation based. If your actions resulted in injury to another person, you would be bound to recompence that person according to what they've lost. That being the case, it was more the wealth of the victim than the guilty party that would have been the deciding factor. In modern days, wealth is imaterial to the offence, but balanced by the points system which removes the privelige of being allowed to drive on the road. Cattermole's still a thug though. He's only just allowed back in the pubs in his local town after a 4 year ban.
That was Vinnie's Premier League tally, I believe, so pre-1992 dismissals don't count towards that total. He had 12 in his career in all.
In the PL only Viera, Dunne and Duncan Ferguson have had more than Cattermole. (Sky Sports Score Center at halftime)
I've watched the Cattermole incident a dizen times, and if he did actually touch Elmo, then the contact was minimal to say the least. So in my opinion it was Cattermole's reputation and not the challenge that got him sent off. PS..There was a far far worse and more dangerous challenge committed by one of your players without a red card being shown, which sort of proves a point..
Can't disagree with this. A few years ago this sort of challenge was part of the mans game that we watch. You're right about reputations. Gareth Barry, reasonably high profile, England player from time to time, reputation went before him when he should have been red carded against us for Everton. Same for Kyle whatever his name is who plays for Spurs. Identical challenge to Cattenoles on our player. Kyle stayed on Cattermole walked. You're probably refrring to Brady near the end, who should have been shown a red. The stamp by the bearded chappy of yours on Meyler was a shocker whichever era(s) you've watched the game in. Good reception for Meyler from your lot btw.
And while I'm at it, there should be a minimum of a yellow card for the ****ers that roll about as if their leg was broken i.e. after the Cattermole challenge or the Brady lunge. Yellow for Elmo and yellow for Johnson. That ud soon sort some of the ****ing diving out.
Sorry, but Clattermore split Elmos boot in the challenge, it was an uncontrolled sliding tackle with studs that made contact. Brady was a yellow because his studs did not make contact. I also think the ref was not in a position to see that both of Brady's feet had left the floor and he to give the benefit of the doubt. Clattermore was walking before the card came out. He knew it was a bad tackle. Elmo does roll about when hurt, but in his defence, he was out of sorts for the rest of the game. The two reds spoilt the game.
In cups it would be difficult to manage, If a player was sent off in a game and they lost, then does the ban carry over to next season and thereafter?
If you are suggesting Robbie Brady's challenge on Adam Johnson was 'far far worse and more dangerous' then you need to watch the highlights again. After the comments by Poyet I watched the highlights on MOTD several times to see if he had a point. Whilst both players made challenges where both feet were off the floor the major difference is that Cattermoles challenge was directly toward Elmo and his studs came into contact on the top of Elmos foot, whereas Bradys challenge was across Johnsons path and the only contact was Bradys calf catching the bottom of Johnsons feet as Johnson jumped over him. If however you were refering to McShane 'nearly decapitating' your goalie then you are just plain stupid like your manager.
