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Calling all you wanabee managers........

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by PGFWhite, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. swanselona

    swanselona Well-Known Member

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    Well I had to ask, because you are still wrong. I know that as I went through all our games recently, so knowing you were wrong, its best to ask up front before telling you that your wrong only for you to be on about something else. I will say I am wrong myself to include Palace, as forgot that Vasquez started that game.

    However here are the last 18 games played without a striker in the starting line up

    Arsenal (h) loss
    Spurs (a) loss
    Man Utd (h) loss
    Fulham (h) loss
    Man Utd (a) loss
    Man City (h) loss
    Chelsea (a) loss
    Spurs (h) loss
    Arsenal (h) loss
    Newcastle (h) win
    QPR (h) win
    West Ham (a) loss
    Everton (a) draw
    Man Utd (h) draw
    Spurs (a) loss
    West Brom (h) Win
    Southampton (a) draw
    Chelsea (h) draw

    There are our last 18 games that we have played without a striker in the starting line up.
    - 3 wins
    - 4 draws
    - 11 losses

    So:
    of those 18 games, 12 were against the top 6 sides of last season.
    - Man Utd x 3
    - Man City x 1
    - Chelsea x 2
    - Arsenal x 2
    - Spurs x 3
    - Everton x 1

    of those 18 games, just 4 were against bottom half teams of last season.
    - Southampton (a) draw
    - Newcastle (h) win
    - QPR (h) win
    - Fulham (h) loss
    - - - of which we gained 7/12 points

    of those 18 games, we played:
    11 home games
    7 away games

    of the 11 home games, we played 8 against teams who finished higher than us.
    of the 7 away games, we played 5 who finished above us, and just 1 bottom half team

    So yes, lets do get some perspective of who we actually played when we played without a striker in the starting line up.
     
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  2. swanselona

    swanselona Well-Known Member

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    In that same time frame, we have played 35 games

    Of those 35 games:

    We won: 10
    - Newcastle (a) - Albion (h) - Arsenal (a) - Fulham (a) - Stoke (h) - QPR (h) - Newcastle (h) - Wigan (a) - West Brom (a) - Crystal Palace (a)

    We drew: 12
    - Chelsea (h) - Southampton (a) - Liverpool (h) - Man Utd (h) - Reading (a) - Villa (h) - Everton (a) - Sunderland (a) - Norwich (h) - Southampton (h) - Man City (h) - Liverpool (h)

    We lost: 13
    - Norwich (h) - Spurs (a) - West Ham (a) - Liverpool (a) - West Brom (a) - Arsenal (h) - Spurs (h) - Chelsea (h) - Man Utd (h) - Fulham (h) - Man Utd (h) - Spurs (a) - Arsenal (h)

    So all in all we played top half teams of last season: 20 games
    - won: 3
    - drew: 6
    - lost: 11

    We played bottom half teams: 15 games
    - won: 7
    - drew: 6
    - lost: 2

    Now without a striker, we played just 4 of the bottom half teams, 2 wins 1 draw 1 loss

    So leaves our striker full team, playing 11, getting 5 wins, 5 draws and 1 loss against bottom half teams. Not bad aye

    But

    Our striker full team played top half teams just 6 times. getting 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses - only 1 against top 6 (Arsenal Win)

    Its easy to say we have lost loads without a striker, but again, lets look at the quality of opposition.
     
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  3. Jokeren1943

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    Latest win (last season - no victories this season), with no striker.

    West Brom. (ended 8 th place)
    Win against NewCastle (ended 16th place)
    Win against QPR (were relegated - ended 20th place)

    A win against a team who got relegated, a win against a team who just barely avoided being relegated, and a midtabel team.

    Horrible stats, when you consider, what we could have done with an quality striker.

    Now we have a one, lets try to use him against a midtabel club.
     
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  4. Jokeren1943

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    Nice stats and nice work - thanks. We are doing well against the "smaller" teams. :)
     
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  5. swanselona

    swanselona Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, I am not saying we don't need a striker, but I don't like the idea that we only won "insert number" with no striker on the pitch, because the teams we played are completely different, and its a bit unfair to say Michu up front (which is why we played with no striker) didn't do the business.
     
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  6. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    So if we are losing against the top sides without a striker in the team, we might as well play with a striker against the big sides :rolleyes:
     
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  7. swanselona

    swanselona Well-Known Member

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    That is true, but.....and its a big but, many of those games were after our capital one cup game, so take the results there with a pinch of salt, we all know the team lost that extra 5% after the final.
     
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  8. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    We also didn't have a recognised striker to play those games as we cashed in and robbed Sunderland of 4.5 million :biggrin:
     
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  9. mustyfrog

    mustyfrog Well-Known Member

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    why is dai banned?
     
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  10. OddRiverOakWizards

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    No Monk in your side?!
     
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  11. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    He'd be on the bench <laugh>
     
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