I guess the point is that had the Rs stayed up they would most likely have had more with the "right stuff" in the first place, so the magnitude of the sort-out would have been markedly less. Maybe.
While I rarely disagree with anything that QPAAAAAGH says, and in essence I agree with him yet again here, I think the point that EscapeGoat makes is very important, that relegation forced the squad changes. Who knows what would have happened had we managed to stay up. Of course we'd rather be playing in the Premier League, otherwise why would we all be so excited about being challenging at the top of the Championship now, but this route may give us a better shot of making us more secure there.
I wasnt bothered about it at all, I wanted us to build for the future. Unfortunately we are still not doing that so will be in the exact same position when we go back up with a collection of players not suited to the PL due to age/injuries/speed or being disloyal dicks.
I think tha seagullhoop has hit the nail on head and sums up my take on things......in fact I often wonder if it had been better to have been relegated the previous season and we would not have had to put up with the sh**e we had last season and we could have started the re-building process 12 months earlier. Hindsight is a marvellous thing......
It wasnt like it was not expected, god knows how youd have felt if we went down like Bolton the year before. Even at the time, I felt we were just digging ourselves into a deeper and deeper hole, something had to change.
I agree wholehearted with what Seagull says and also what Nuts chipped in with. If you look at the wording of the OP, it simply asks has it done us a world of good - The simple answer is yes Separate out the fans from being included in the "we" and then ask, did Queens Park Rangers Football club deserve to be relegated - The simple answer is yes. Has the relegation done Queens Park Rangers Football club the world of good - Simple answer yes, for all the reasons that Seagull and Nuts say. TF and PB et al got a rude awakening on life in football ownership and they will have learned very quickly from our two seasons in the top flight. Wouldn't it be nice to wake up on the very last day of this season thinking (if we are not already promoted or way down the table) "we could get promoted today if we win, and if we do win, we don't have to worry about the FA taking it away from us because of an admin cock-up over and Argentinian signing". A rerun of 2010/2011 without the stress of the final few weeks.
Or even better 'we got promoted a couple of weeks ago and doesn't it feel great just going to todays game when the result doesn't matter'
Oh wow. Dawson and Defoe. They'd set the world alight. Even Harold did not want Dawson and Defoe when he was able to bag Samba and Remy. What a spectacular waste of money the former was.
Good thread Stainsey....relegation is never to be desired, but it seems to have put a rocket up a few arses at HQ, and its fun to be winning, even against the crap that the Championship has to offer. Now we seem to have clicked a little Im looking forward to us humiliating a few teams with style and arrogance (none of this 'respect' stuff for me). But we would have been better off being relegated first season up (despite the glorious escape) if we had to get relegated at all, We are now at least £60m behind all of the Prem, even Palace and Hull, because of the change in the TV deal. And I 100% agree with Flyer, we have a team for 1 season and a specific objective, we'll have a massive turnover again next summer - probably 75% of a new defence for starters unless we can buy BAE and inject Dunne and Hill with stem cells. Its exciting in a demented kind of way, but getting tiring for old farts like me.
Just because it was expected did not make it hurt less. I've been hurt by Rangers many times over the years and I'm sure I will be hurt many more times in the future, but I know I will always be bothered.
Hurt? Yeah it hurt, none moreso than the Wigan match, I watched that in a bar in Cyprus, the lows and highs of that game somehow summed up our stay in the top flight but nothing hurt as much as that last kick equaliser we conceded. It was the moment I knew had sealed our fate and it knocked the stuffing out of me. That said, I wouldn't change anything. We experienced the mercenaries and being a national laughing stock. We also experienced a handful of truly memorable moments. It's all now in the past and Harry has deconstructed that shambles and got us our mojo back, I'm only looking forward now - onwards and upwards...
I agree entirely, especially about the wigan free kick. I just knew it was going in. It's those moments that make the good times so much sweeter. I was trying to explain to a manu fan who didn't watch their match last night because they are so bad at the moment, what being an R*is like. He thought I was mad (probably am) for watching the U18s live on a stream with a rubbish camera at 12.30 on a sunday morning. He and so many others will never understand
After an hurrendous last season i'm glad we went down as we were a laughing stock week in week out, we can now balance the books slowly & think if we had stayed up we might still be in a financial state, we didn't deserve to stay up & now we can look forward to when we go up & hopefully its this season to be more stabilised & get the right players in & i think we've learned our lesson & hopefully the board have going by the players that have been brought in so far & the contracts they are on, harry so far has bought wisely & mainly english & players who want to play for us. That last season for me was the worst i've know,s a fan & been coming down over 50 years & i don't won't to see another repeat of that thank you, i can go on about it but have had enough talking about it & flak i've had at work & family, still i guess we all had that. still onwards & upwards we march on.
I have a mere 41 years Jeff, and last season was definitely the worst I've known, though dropping to League 2 or whatever it was called was pretty dire. But was it really worse than the horror of the first season in the old Division 1 when we got the record low points? Regarding the flak from mates, its been really interesting. Definitely got a lot, but the ones who really know and love football - supporters of Arsenal, Sunderland, Hibs(!), Villa, Birmingham and my Italian mates who follow Torino, Fiorentina, Juve, Cagliari and Roma (they only look out for R's results because of me) and a couple of others - kept it really in check, and looked on in more awed horror than anything else, ended up with a lot of sympathy. You only wish that kind of season on your worst enemy. One day it will happen to Chelsea, once the Russian loses interest.
