Mr Jay E= Easyrider Thomas's flow would get the P45 straight away wiv two there. Mr Taylor preferred Geoff THOMAS to Paul Gascoigne. The P word means nada in modern football without skill. I could run all day, run 10 miles under an hour, had loads of passion, could hold a line, but had one leg which could hit a ball ... Fit for England nearly.
Who said they didn't have to have some talent for football? So can you pick out a manager that is utterly perfect in every single way in the game? I'd be interested to hear who you came up with. My point being, SOD shows very little aptitude towards stirring up passion in our players, and I criticised GJ because he had faults, but at least he didn't facilitate prima donnas, he stood up to them, not always in the right way mind you, but he didn't tolerate shoddy attitude. Hence bye bye Basso, bye bye Orr, bye bye Trundle! All of these players either put their own interests before their teams, or were too lazy to be professional! It's exactly what I respect Di Canio for, not tolerating it. Millens problem was he wanted to be their best mate as well as their manager, and it doesn't work like that!
There goes the P word again. Gnashing and gnarling, flapping arms up and down like a duck on amphet and humiliating players in public v Having a quiet word in private with players individually Two sides to pashun there. Dubious seeing the sketch in public if Mr DiCanio should be allowed near lads like Bryan and Reid at any club ... Loose cannons can harm clubs. Shan't come up with any names. No need. Happy with Mr S Happy, OD doesn't stand for overdose yet ... It's his team now from the first Saturday.
Wouldn't want Di Canio anywhere near the City, I believe he would do a great deal of harm and could not see him getting on with the Lansdowns. Still happy with SOD, at present. Time will either prove me right or a total prat who got it totally wrong? who knows? Football isn't like any other business that I know.
There are no names, thats why? You can call Di Canio what you like, but there is method behind his madness. Eccentric yes, but a loose canon, thats just nonsense, ask Swindon fans whether or not he did more harm than good! Bring up Sunderland, and then question whether he really deserved the sack, if you think yes based on their league performance or win ratio, then you surely believe your false prophet SOD should have had the door opened for him 10 games ago? Football needs a change, and like I said, the bubble will burst eventually.
Di Canio came across as an ego maniac. Any manager who publically dresses down players, loses a dressing room after signing fourteen players only weeks and months ago is a loose cannon. Yes he deserved the sack. The bubble at the top level will not burst, The TV deals are ever lucrative, but below that clubs need sensible and level headed approaches. Bristol City have been operating 140% past their income, a Manager/ Head coach was needed who has been used to Managing a club with financial restraint was needed. Hopefully Sean O'driscoll fits this criteria. His CV is impressive. The football? In my forty years of watching City I have seen FAR worse teams than this have better starts playing WORSE football. I am convinced it will turn around and soon.
You and I agree in many matters Rhino but for SoD to be on borrowed time after just 8 league games is frankly ludicrous. What about last year though..? What about it, IT'S A DIFFERENT TEAM, that's what - compare apples with apples and not a memory of a bygone era. I will say it again, last years team was a basket case beyond saving by ANY manager and you CANNOT lumber last year's failure on the new squad. It's like blaming your second wife for all the faults of the first one, it doesn't wash. This is a new one and to throw it out of the window after 8, yes that's EIGHT league games is completely and totally insane. SoD wasn't my first choice either but I am not bothered if he doesn't inspire you, it's what happens on the pitch that interests me and the last 2 performances have shown definite signs of improvement. What we really need is to defend better as a unit and to produce a 90 minute performance (instead of 45-60) and this is coming. The only reason that managers don't get time these days, is because today's throwaway culture wants everything instantly and if they don't like something (like their phone), they aren't patient enough to wait until their contract runs out like you used to have to, they just chuck the old one and pay to change it. There is no patience anymore, no time allowed for something to grow and mature, just chuck it out... Well I say **** em, the plan will continue, we will improve and the remarks on here about us being in league 2 next year will be made to look like the ridiculous comments that they are. IF, we are still in the bottom 4 at Christmas, I would take stock but it won't happen....
Prem wasn't you saying last season that we was definitely not going down? Wasn't you saying the same about DMC? I admire your support, and even though it takes me 2 days to digest what the **** is SoD on about. I'm still 100% behind him.
The reason we had so many good kids at one time was simple that was about the only time since I have been going to BS3 that we had a decent scouting setup one short period in something like 60 years. Alan Dicks wouldn't have lasted as long as he did at most other clubs before he took us to the top but whilst he was trying to build a team he had scouts out looking especially for young players not journeymen basically what Burt and Sean O'Driscoll are doing now, however with the basis that was brought into the club at the start of the season and the few that we kept I don't think we will have to wait anything as long for us to get a better team at BS3 playing joined up football rather than hoofball. My brother the former Gashead watched the game at St Mary's, as he is currently working in Southampton, and he said ' I don't see how City have not won a league game so far this season as in the first half they were outplayed but scrapped for everything and it was one bit of magic that sent them in one down in the second half he thought there was only one team going to win the game and it wasn't Southampton until they got their second goal from a corner' now I hardly think he would be giving a biased report as he has little affection for City and none at all for the Gas. City will improve as watching the highlights on player show they are looking more like a team almost every match. I fully believe we will start climbing the table soon as it is now more like a confidence thing regarding wins once the first one comes it will be like London busses just you wait and see.
Sorry regarding Di Canio how can you say he didn't agree with players earning large sums of money for making a 2hour appearance on a playing field once or twice a week, what do you think he was earning as a player peanuts?
Just been reading about the game from the Southampton fans viewpoint - ' but for a few fine saves from kelvin we may have let them back in. City fans should be rightly proud of their team who just would not give up. It's not that we under estimated them but I think some thought they would get more time on the ball than they did.' That sums up more or less what was said especially as they were expecting to score a hatful before the game unless we went and parked the team coach in front of the goal.
I was indeed and until the Wolves game, we had every chance - we will never know the truth of whether the team simply bottled it or they were playing to instruction but we had Wolves by the balls and didn't crush them (figuratively) giving them the chance to get their act together enough to beat us. I was REALLY angry after that game, like I haven't been for years and it seemed like the team gave up at after that. DM was given a brief when he got here, the same one that AVB was given at Chelsea i.e. ship out the old guard and start rebulidng, preferably staying in the NPC but like AVB, I think that the players did for him. Nevertheless, he laid down some foundations and I am sure that SoD has been given assurances that so long as we do reasonably well this season, that he WILL be given time to bring the project to fruition 8 LEAGUE GAMES IS NOT IT....
it is down to patience and certainly not 8 games...LO are on 8 straight...so we go on 8 straight once we have broken the ice...played 16 and 28 points... then replicate that over the next 30 we lose 7 more and draw 8 more and win 15 hey ho I wont be changing my points forcast!
From the moment he selected Kilkenny ahead of Reid I knew SOD was S***e. Wagstaffe,O'Connor are more examples of s***e judgement. Wynter might be another, only saw him once - needs a bomb up his.... SOD's always building bridges, saying how good the opposition is, might have to gamble on another loan defender etc etc FFS - just get on with it. The whole club needs lifting and he comes out with more s***e - he's just one long guts ache.
You have stated a number of times it's a different team now Prem, and I've said each time, it makes no difference, Wolves has an entirely new team, most teams go through a change of sometimes a dozen players, they are still winning games despite having new managers at the helm. SOD isn't new anymore, his form is that of relegation, and I don't know what makes people think he can perform anymore than he did with Doncaster who also failed largely under him!
Doncastor were a success, unless you think managers can get the likes of Yeovil challenging for Europe minus tens of millions . Watching six of eight this season I see glimpses of what can be. No car train crash here.
Here we going judging players after 8 games? wasn't Wagstaff man of the match for one of our games and weren't some fans on here praising Wynter? I thought the idea was that SOD and the club were bringing in young players for the "future" and that it would not be an easy fix. 8 games for me is not the "future" and if we struggle to establish ourselves in this division, with a view to pushing on, then so be it. Time is needed not a knee jerk reaction to a run of poor results (if not poor performances) otherwise we are back at the change of manager, change of philosophy, change of players and yet more disruption. Get with the plan as they say. We have young players with potential not has beens we have players from the academy playing and at times some reasonable football. Watch us climb the table.
I have not seen the right man appointed at Ashton Gate since GJ when he first signed on the dotted line, a man on the up, not on the way down like SOD. His style of football does not work, you can say "oh we are getting better every game" well it's garbage, we aren't we are still losing, posession means nothing when the 38% of the game you don't have it you leak goals like nobodies business! Leaking goals is a part of football, but the idea is to outscore your opponent otherwise you are wasting your time. If this passing style was oh so brilliant, we would bamboozle the likes of Shrewsbury, when in fact we looked beneath them in terms of team and club stature. I say go foreign where coaches are a little brighter and a little more hungry!
So Gary Johnson was the right man, but you would want a Foreigner. So what would a Dutch or Spanish manager do? 4-5-1 - 4-4-1-1 and the football would be possession based. Sounds familiar to the current coach. Dutch and Spanish clubs do process and outcomes. Sounds familiar to the current coach. Perhaps you are thinking of Italy or Germany. Two different beasts there, but beware Borussia Dortmund were the result of a five year plan. How would you finance this foreign revolution? Is it costed? What would happen to the pathway which is being implemented at BCFC? Would the model have to be adapted? The last two questions would be of interest to myself. If BCFC do not meet certain standards young talent WILL get pointed elsewhere.
Post clearly stated "SINCE Gary Johnson"... Doesn't say he is the right man now! So not sure what you are getting at, but 8 years ago, definitely GJ was the right way forward. I see what Swansea did, and see no reason why other clubs can't emulate that, they didn't spend fortunes to rebuild, and they progressed gradually at a pleasing rate to the fans as they saw the club was going forward. Can you honestly say with our Board, our Manager, our players, we are building for a Swansea like future? If so we are clearly miles apart on what we think is realistic under SOD.
