Spurs look to be improving at a faster rate than us, but we do seem to rise to the big games, and this IS one. Guess it's all down to the team Jose picks, which worries the hell out of me. Underwhelmed with selections and subs so far, it's just our class that's getting us home. Too close to call this one.
please log in to view this image Tottenham Hotspur host Chelsea at White Hart Lane on Saturday 28th September 2013 (KO 12:45) in the 6th round of 2013-14 Premier League matches. Spurs come into the game in 2nd place on 12 points with Chelsea in 4th place on 10 points. This will be the 191st time the two teams have met each other. Chelsea are one of the few major English football teams who never played Spurs during the Victorian Era, as they were only founded in 1905 and were admitted into the Second Division of the Football League without ever having played a match before. This was due to the rivalry that existed at the time between the Football League and the Southern League with the former desperate to make in-roads into the lucrative markets which London and the South-East provided. The first meeting between Spurs and Chelsea was a friendly played at Stamford Bridge in February 1908 and ended in a 2-2 draw. The same venue saw the first Football League Division One encounter in December 1909 and Chelsea won that match 2-1. The return fixture at White Hart Lane was won by Spurs 2-1 and in between those two matches the clubs met in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in a match which Spurs won 1-0 at Stamford Bridge. Spurs and Chelsea would meet for another three seasons in the First Division before the outbreak of World War One with honours even at two wins for Spurs, two wins for Chelsea and two drawn matches. 14 games were played during the First World War and these featured many players who 'guested' for both clubs. Five of Tottenham's "home" games were played at Arsenal's Highbury Stadium. Spurs and Chelsea had finished in the bottom two places in the last season of the First Division when war broke out and when football resumed in 1919, the Division was expanded from 20 to 22 teams. Arsenal engineered a 'promotion' to the First Division at Spurs' expense but Tottenham easilly won the Division Two Championship and the next season had two emphatic wins over Chelsea 5-0 at home and 4-0 at the Bridge. The teams would meet for another five seasons in the First Division and two seasons in the Second Division during the inter-war period - season 1929-30 was the last time Spurs & Chelsea played League games outside the Top Flight of English Football. Spurs only lost two of those 14 League matches. During World War Two, 16 games were played between Spurs and Chelsea Spurs returned to the First Division in season 1950-51 and did the 'double' over Chelsea winning 2-0 away and 2-1 at home on their way to the first Football League Championship. Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea contested the first all-London FA Cup Final in 1967 at Wembley with Spurs winning 2-1 thanks to goals scored by Jimmy Robertson and Frank Saul. The first meeting in the Football League Cup came in the 1971-72 Semi-Finals with Chelsea winning the first leg at Stamford Bridge 3-2 and Spurs only managing a 2-2 draw at White Hart Lane. Both clubs were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and both have been ever-present for the 21 seasons of the competition, along with Arsenal, Aston Villa, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester United. Chelsea have very much had the upper hand during the Premier League Era with 23 wins to Tottenham's 3 with the remaining 15 matches drawn. A second domestic Cup Final was contested in 2008 when Spurs beat Chelsea in the Football League (Carling) Cup Final 2-1 after extra time at Wembley. A Dimitar Berbatov penalty and a Jonathan Woodgate header ensured the silverware would once again reside in North London. The 2010-11 fixture in December at White Hart Lane resulted in a 1-1 draw with Roman Pavlyuchenko scoring for Spurs after 15 minutes and Didier Drogba getting Chelsea's equaliser after 70 minutes. Drogba's injury time penalty was saved by Heurelho Gomes. The reverse fixture at Stamford Bridge in April was won by Chelsea 2-1 with Spurs taking a 19th minute lead through Sandro and Frank Lampard equalising on half time. Salomon Kalou scored the winner after 89 minutes. The 2011-12 match at White Hart Lane in December resulted in a 1-1 draw with Emmanuel Adebayor putting Spurs ahead after 8 minutes and Chelsea's Daniel Sturridge getting the equaliser in the 23rd minute. The game at Stamford Bridge in March ended in a goalless draw. Chelsea won the 2012 FA Cup Semi-Final at Wembley 5-1 with the turning-point coming from a 49th minute Juan Mata goal which never crossed the line. Didier Drogba had put the Blues ahead just before the interval and Spurs managed to pull a goal back in the 56th minute through Gareth Bale. Three further goals from Ramares, Lampard and Malouda were added for Chelsea. Andre Villas-Boas was sacked as Chelsea's manager in March 2012 and became the manager of Tottenham Hotspur on 3rd July 2012. The match at White Hart Lane in October 2012 was won by Chelsea 4-2. A Gary Cahill volly after 17 minutes was the only goal of the first half and Spurs went ahead with goals from William Gallas and Jermain Defoe. A brace from Juan Mata and a Daniel Sturridge goal gave Chelsea the three points. The teams drew 2-2 at Stamford Bridge in May 2013 with Oscar opening the scoring after 10 minutes and Emmanuel Adebayor getting the equaliser after 26 minutes. Ramires put Chelsea ahead again after 39 minutes but Gylfi Sigurdsson scored 10 minutes from the end. Overall, Spurs have won 68, Chelsea have won 74 and 48 of the 190 matches between the two clubs have been drawn. please log in to view this image Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea Matches 1908-2013 please log in to view this image They Played for Spurs & Chelsea.... Clive Allen Les Allen Jimmy Armstrong Frank Arnesen (Director of Football both clubs) Eddie Bailey Ted Birnie Danny Blanchflower (Spurs player, Chelsea manager) Derek Brazil Johnny Brooks Bill Cartwright Sid Castle David Copeland Carlo Cudicini Jason Cundy Kerry Dixon Gordon Durie Mark Falco William Gallas Lee Gardner George Graham (Chelsea player, Spurs manager) Jimmy Greaves Frode Grodas Eidur Gudjohnsen Tommy Harmer (Spurs player, Chelsea coach) Alan Harris (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager) Micky Hazard Glenn Hoddle (Spurs & Chelsea player & manager) Stewart Houston (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager) Percy Humphries Steve Kelly John Kirwan Colin Lee Scott Parker Gustavo Poyet Graham Roberts Max Seeburg Buchanan Sharp Bobby Smith Neil Sullivan Andy Thompson (Spurs player, Chelsea coach) Sid Tickridge Jimmy Townley Terry Venables (also Spurs manager) Andre Villas-Boas (manager at both clubs) Keith Weller Ernie Walley (Spurs player, Chelsea asst. manager) Harry Wilding Clive Wilson Vivian Woodward please log in to view this image Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2013-14 Chelsea Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2013-14 Premier League London Derbies Season 2013-14 please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
The Arsenal game is completely irrelevant to be fair because we faced them with a team that were still very new to each other and we didn't have Eriksen. We are now starting to gel as a team and are tearing teams apart at the moment. Cardiff away is still a tough game and we completely bossed it. We are a better all round side this season without bale no doubt about it so although you Chelsea fans are saying "no bale no fear" ... You are forgetting the other players we have got that can cause damage. Paulinho coming into his own now and looking a fantastic buy, Eriksen is mustard, Lamela slowly show by his class and although Soldado not scored in a while, he's looked extremely sharp recently. Our defence have also been incredible this season so far. Chelsea is our biggest challenge but I'm confident we can beat anyone the way we are playing ... 2-1 spurs or 2-2 but I certainly can't see you beating us.
Oh and district line/ bubbles, I love how you mention Spurs facing our only decent opponent Arsenal and losing but completely forget this is exactly what Chelsea have done. Your only real tough opponents have been Everton and united in which you have failed to win in either of those. So really you are in the same boat us if we are talking about not beating top class opposition.
You can gel as much as you like in September. The business end of the season: March, April, May defines clubs
But the difference is we aren't overrating our side and we have pedigree in the big matches. The fact is, Spurs do not have a good record in London derbies against Arsenal or Chelsea. We didn't beat Everton but we held our own against Man U and Bayern in games we were expected to lose.
I was very confident we'd win at WHL last season and am equally so this time around. I don't think AVB really understands London Derbies, certainly not as well as Redknapp did anyway (for all his faults). Jose will just needs to pick a strong spine, the rest of the team picks itself but I think we'll see the same team that started in Prague but with JT in ahead of Luiz.
Our record at white hart lane against Arsenal and Chelsea in recent years is actually very good but you fail to mention that. You beat a very weak spurs side last season at the lane that were missing some key players like Dembele and Bale. We proved we could hold more than our own against you by getting a well deserved 2-2 draw at the bridge. No ones over rating spurs.. We are just confident the way we are playing. 8 wins from 9 with only 1 conceded. Like I say 2-1 spurs or 2-2 but you won't be beating us.
€Â£purs usually freeze against us but maybe this season will be different and they can finally get over their inferiority complex v us at 3PL. They've spent enough cash this year so no excuses
It hasen't been 3 point lane for a while because apart from last season you haven't beaten us there for years.
