My general outlook is still positive

Just thought I'd put this out there.
Here's a few reasons for me remaining positive...

HBA generally playing well
Remy getting off to a flyer
Mapou improving (again)
We were, for a few minutes yesterday in second place during our match... it really is that close....
There's certainly more than three clubs worse than us at this present time
We have January to come... a time where we have a record of spending and strengthening
We are actually playing better than we did last season
4-3-3

There we go... if we can't feel relatively content with that little lot there's summat up

 

This sums up a mass over reaction to one result to me

 

I don't think for a second think relegation is a possibility but our next 6 league games are:

Everton (a)
Cardiff (a)
Liverpool (h)
Sunderland (a)
Chelsea (h)
Spurs (a)

It's a tough, tough run of games. I'd take 7 points but that would then give us only 14 points from 11 games which isn't great. It's why yesterday was such a crucial game.

You'll probably find our upcoming fixtures (added to yesterday's result) are a big reason for a bit of an over reaction from some of us (me included).

 

I'd say we would get 4 points from that little lot.
All the top teams seem beatable at times so it will be interesting to see how things pan out.

 

I'd take 5 points out of those games, don't forget that Sunderland will have a new manager.

 

Liverpool have been beaten at home too so could be surprise points. You never know.

 

The patience of supporters in the north east is virtually non existent. We are 5 games in

 

16th under this manager last year, we're in **** now with our next 6 games. Sunderland are in even more **** in reality.

 

Put me in the no patience bracket ! I can't see us getting much out of that lot if anything ,if our mates down the road haven't won a game by then what's the betting they get their first 3pts against us

 

Very likely, the thing they will probably have a manager like Di Matteo then, which would be a very good appointment for them.

 

But we still have JFK and Ashley in charge

 

It all did seem abit of an overreaction but it's understandable, everyone seen enough from pards last season to know that game is not really an anomoly. Similar flaws reappear in his inability to keep a lead, plan properly for all games (not just the bigged up ones) and to improve the form of players like Cisse, Cabaye (still bin crap), Tiote, gutes etc. So it hasn't been five games, he has been manager for plenty of time.

Personally i think it was a blip and shud be a back to earth message to ideas of a 2011/12 repeat but also to that mouthy little tart Pardew who has the temerity to say we over-reacted over the summer and into the season. Hopefully he'll shut his mouth, stay humble and go about his business. Keeping the current formation will bring us points. Then i'd think top 10.
Of course he'll probably re-engage in his unflinching use of Shola and Gutes next week and remove all my remaining hope

 

I think we will be fine and the trouble with yesterday was that it was yet another missed chance to build on something.
This is what has piss's everyone off.Its typical Newcastle though always letting you down and making you happy when you least expect it....keep the faith we will be alreet.

 

The last major trophy being won in 1969 and the almost full-house on Saturday would suggest otherwise.

 

The outlook isn't positive at all. Basically, we are unlikely to go down. But we will continue to see some of the same basic errors creep in, fully aware that cr@p results have no impact on the manager or senior management at the club as the sole purpose of NUFC is to stay up.

No, it's increasingly bleak for me. Latest soundbytes from Pardew just leave me cold - "looking for a reaction", "have to bounce back"....seen all this SH!T before. When Reading turned us over, when Sunderland did, when Liverpool did, when Benfica did. How many "reactions" are we looking for? Can the manager not set this goddam team up to be PROACTIVE instead of having to react to the same tired old rubbish? I just don't get it - a Hull lad on another thread claimed, player for player, they are every bit as good as us. Absolute fcking garbage. I'd never heard of many of their players til, well, three of them scored.

According to Alan Pardew, we're literally ONE player away from being able to emulate finishing 5th. He suggested last week that we could and arguably should beat ANYONE at SJP. But what's any of it based on? He just talks a good game, he has no ability to bring a good game. No, for me there's little to be positive about. I know what the manager's going to serve up, I know where the ambition lies and with Ashley at the top, change ain't around the corner.

 

Ah that old chestnut. Whereas we might love our football and support our clubs, we are 5 games into a new season and one club has sacked a manager, the others supporters want to. Patience with managers in these parts is now legendary. Not that we are that much different to te rest of the PL clubs, football is now fully in the grip of the instant success merchants. To hell with building things over a period of time or putting solid foundations in place, "win immediately or **** off" is the new motto.

 

Whilst 5 games is no time at all, the majority of people wanted Pardew gone in the summer based on last seasons performances and their opinion on him is based on that and not the 5 games from this season. I do think PDC has been given a raw deal though.

 

A very sober and balanced view.

Do you regard Alan Pardew as having the long-term plan to bring success?

It looks to me like we've been playing 4-4-1-1 since he got here (often misrepresented as 4-3-3) and the 'quality' being brought in is nothing but substitution rather than evolution.

Just a thought.

 

My personal view is that we overachieved 2 seasons back and under achieved in a big way last season. When I take into account the injuries that we suffered last season, I cancel one season out with the other to a neutral standpoint on Pardew's competence for the job. His tactics worked well in 2011/12 when he had all the players playing how he wanted them to in 2012/13 he was playing sub-standard players out of position so we were never going to work as well. I was shocked at just how bad we were but it proved that the decent players were making up for the fallibilities of the Obertans etc of our squad.

Therefore In my eyes we've had Pardew in charge for 5 games after 2 seasons of averaged out mid table play. In those 5 games we have found ourselves in, yep you got it, mid-table. All is going to form so far. We have always had slip ups against the weaker teams (Wigan in 2011/12 when we were still on course for a possible 4th for example). The promoted teams will beat other established PL teams as well. Cardiff beating Man City springs to mind. Of course in many Newcastle fan's eyes that was just proof again that we were rubbish as Cardiff beat Man City where we couldn't. I think it just goes to show how competitive this league is and if the players have an off day then you are much more likely to lose.

As for substitution rather than evolution, yes I think this is exactly what's happening at the moment. I think we are trying to improve the team in small steps. The major issue being that we are not willing to break the bank to go for a massive spree and once again I can see why. With the exception of Shearer, so many of our big money signings have been massive flops up here that risking a huge sum of money on another one of these potential flops is bound to ring alarm bells. Instead we are bringing in youngsters that show promise at small expense with the hope that we can improve the team with new younger talent that we can afford without ruining the wage structure (which I am 100% in favour of) and further unsettling established 1st team players.

In conclusion, going back to the OP I am still feeling positive about the season, yes we've had a slip up and if Collo's story on Sky Sports re the team being angry about the defeat is to be believed as factual then I see no reason why we can't come back against Everton, put in a decent performance and grab the 3 points.

 

Short answer is no. I am happy to give it time and I do think this is a make or break season for him.

However I'm not convinced any manager will be successful over the long term under this regime. I simply believe this policy (which is outside the managers control) of buying cheap foreign talent and not bothering with an English core is completely flawed. I do not believe it can work. That is just my opinion. I do not believe this regime is that bothered whether we are mid table or lower. As long as we remain PL I think they'll be happy. There is no ambition. if there was we would follow the blueprint the best manager in recent times set out SBR - i.e. build your team around a core of british talent who know what the league is about. Given, Woodgate, Speed, Shearer. Surround that core with young british talents picked up before they become superstars. Bellamy, Dyer, Jenas, Milner. Chuck in a bit foreign flair to make things click. Robert, Solano. Very simple but effective strategy.

So while this regime remains I doubt you'll ever attract a real visionary manager who can do something special. Nor would we pay the going rate for one. So is Pardew really that bad, or is he just willing to be handicapped by poor policies? I keep hearing "change the manager, we have a good squad with top ten talent". I have to say I remain to be convinced that is the case. I'm kind of passive about Pardew in reality, as I think the barriers preventing real progress run much much deeper.