And Pardew's lack of tactical awareness strikes again - My thoughts on the Hull game.

Players just underperformed for me. We were set up correctly, the players just lacked concentration, dynamism seen in the previous game, and to be honest some just didn't seem to give a ****. For all HBA talks about maturity and wanting consistency, he has yet to come anywhere close in all his time here. Not fair to expect it every week of course but the difference in quality of performance vary so much. He is either a 10 or a 3.

Cabaye and Sissoko were pathetic. It was like Sissoko was so impressed with his ball for the first goal, he thought job done and packed up his tools. The full backs were a unmitigated disaster. Mbiwa positionally naïve and his ****ing passing was league 2 at times. Cisse? I could do a better job. Only Remy and Anita came out with any credit. I struggle o blame a manager on days like today but he does prepare them so their performance levels are partly down to him. Perhaps he struggles to get them to give two ****s.

 

So apparently picking the right players in the right formation isn't all there is to it, but when Pards got the win vs Villa that was the reason we won, not because of Pardew. Make your minds up lads, you can't have it both ways to suit your argument.

Fact is that we've outshot our opponents with shots on target for our last 3 games before hull - that's not luck that we won, that's good tactics that had given us the best possible chance of winning.

Poor performance from the team was to blame yesterday. If Debuchy had done his job properly instead of going walkabout every 5 mins cos of complacency we would have won. Simple as that. Cisse was also v poor but pards took the tough decision to take him off- I think everyone in the stadium would have done the same. Dropped for next game?

 

So do you think he got the substitutions right?
IMO, the changes left us light in midfield and we were getting over ran. Easy to blame Debuchy, but where was the cover for him.

 

the marking for both there 2nd and 3rd goals was shocking simple as

 

leave personal insults to PM.
You are clearly starting to wum the board so if you persist you'll be banned.
Over to you.

 

Perhaps banning people might be better than closing threads?

 

Yep. Nothing tactical, just poor concentration.

 

Have to agree with this ACS, remove the rubbish but let the board flow.

 

Too extreme mate IMHO.
Some may be boozed up and make a mistake. We all do at some point, that's why I believe in a gentler approach which usually does the same trick.
I believe in giving everyone a warning first, then a ban will follow if it isn't heeded.
There are of course the odd exception with people like Billy D who need a firmer hand.

 

It's got nothing to do with poor tactics from Pardew and to be honest I have a degree of sympathy with the players. It can't be easy for a mere mortal to perform at peak ability when you have someone like Kinnear casting his highly trained eye on proceedings. When you consider that you're being judged by someone who has won every conceivable acolade within the game including 2013 C*nt of the year, I think the players actually did quite well.

It's just a pity that Ashley appointed a DOF with such a CV as Joes', I know hindsight's a wonderful thing but a less qualified man may have been the way forward.

 

I am starting to get really worried by Debuchy.
The lad seems to go walkabout.
Am I alone thinking this?

 

Remove posts that are personally insulting or too profane.

Closing somebodys thread because of other peoples vulgarity hardly seems fair.

 

You are entitled to your opinion Joker as am I.
This will be one of those moments where we disagree.
No big deal.

 

I think the cabaye substitution was poor as the switch to 4-4-2 really didn't work, and left us out of shape, I agree with you there. But I actually think the players should have knuckled down after the first goal and concentrated so that we weren't in a position where we had to take risks to chase the game and change shape. Complacency was in abundance - the "job done" attitude after the first goal was embarrassing, the players totally underestimated Hull's ability and got sloppy.

 

Tough luck yesterday kids. I was annoyed myself at the winner as I'd have won a proper pile of cash had it ended a draw. I think we deserved the win for the way we closed you out if nothing else, 2 lucky goals if well poached by Remy getting into those positions and 2 good finishes.

If your team were properly motivated that probably would have been a 2-0 home win, your 2 goals were forced albeit with an element of fortune, where as our 3, well they just wernt even defended at all as if no one in black and white could be arsed, and all 3 of ours could have been prevented. Some of your team seemed to play with an arrogance that it would be a piece of piss and you should beat us without half trying, most notably Ben Arfa. Guess that's Pardew's error letting them play with that mentality.

Anyway you will have better and worse days over the coming season I'm sure. It could have been worse it could have been Sunderland you lost to yesterday, and they truly are ****.

 

Agree there, at times the players seemed to look as though they were on easy street

 

People saying yesterday's performance/defeat was not down to Pardew are forgetting a key fact and that fact is that not only is it his job to pick the best formation and team (which most of us would agree he did) but he is also responsible for MOTIVATING the players.

We cam out second half looking like we'd had a team talk from Ray Wilkins and Andy Townsend, the two most boring people in football.

His substitutions were also very poor.

 

Pardew's P45 had the bullet already Al, very good of you to come on the board and put yourself down in that way.

Back orf dan saf now are you?

 

He plays his part but sometimes players surely have to take some responsibility too? It was clear to me our so called big names thought it was gonna be an easy day at the office. Pardew set us up well, maybe didn't get them motivated enough as you say, but the players gave a lazy and ill disciplined performance. I don't think these players are as good as some think they are personally.

 

I agree that the players are partly to blame too, but the counter argument to that is that our entire squad is now made up of players signed by him.

If he can't get them clued up and motivated for 90 minutes of football then that's down to him as the manager. If it was a one off I'd understand, but I do think the fact that we've won by more than one goal only twice in our last 43 league games (one of them was against 10 man Wigan) shows that we very rarely perform well for an entire match.

Also the games against Sunderland Liverpool were huge games, the fact he couldn't get them up for those matches is also a problem. It needs addressing in my opinion.

Successful teams, even solid mid table teams tend to make their home ground a bit of a fortress. Under Pardew we've won less than half of our home league games. It's worrying to say the least.