.... Not a Brylcreem advert! Very very tired of hearing the excuses from our manager, and our fans that this is a "new team" and that we "need time to gel". This is Football, and you don't get that time ANYMORE! Yes up to the nineties, even early noughties, managers were given a bit of time to build a squad to get results. But that doesn't exist anymore! I fail to see how you can build a new team, and expect time on your investment based on the players SOD has brought in, and the timing of which he brought them in! Loan players are pointless in my view, and always will be. A loan player brought into the fold so late is even more pointless. You should do your business with the players you want in the first month of the transfer window before the league starts. I recognise it's not as clean cut and easy as that, but it's imperative at our leavel. These players have to relocate, have to move their families, or move alone, have to find a home, have to adjust to a new city, new surroundings, new players, new managements styles, new ways of doing EVERYTHING they are used to. I am happy to wait, but I am not happy with the lame excuses like the ones we are being given. I am happy to see a squad being built, but not with the likes of players we are investing football minutes in such as Shorey, Harewood, etc Yes they are good players, and effective, I don't dispute that, but the time they adjust, the time they play the way SOD wants them to, along with the rest of the team, they will be gone, and someone else has to learn! Baldock and JET will be gone in January, they are far too good for this league in the right team, so what happens when are two main goal threats have gone? We start all over with this system, structure and style SOD dreams off! This is football, you have to think in football time, not dreamland wishful thinking time SOD!
It is frightening how poor we would be if we lost JET & Baldock. I have read how lazy and lethargic JET looks in games, but we always knew that when he joined, he is that type of player, but he has that ability to do one or two special things in a game, and at the moment that is what is stopping us from being well beaten each week. On a positive note on current form he would be worth around a Million which we could use.
Getting too fed up and apathetic with results to even get upset any more. Who is up for trips to Accrington and Bury next year, cuz the way it's going we'll only be in League 1 for this season
At the moment JET is priceless. Despite what people say "he doesn't run around enough, He looks lazy" blah blah blah. We had that in skuse and he was ****. We don't have it in JET and he is quality. People need to realise JET will never change so just bite your tongue and don't bother to moan as its pointless. If we lose JET to injury or selling him and we're still where we are come January then we are in for a dog fight. Still though, It will pick up soon im confident.
Yes because if we lost JET and boldock in january we would stop winning games? Even without them the results would still be the same, granted goal difference could be worse depending who was brought in to replace them. As for JET and boldock both are not consistant enough to get a big move. You have to question why he came to a league one club if he was that good. He is a player that gives you 5 mins of magic and the rest of the game he goes missing. If loan players is all we can afford SOD needs to get someone as we are desperate for a striker as we have no outlet up front. Sometimes the best defence is a good offence It will be interesting to see of the fans sticking up for him last week if all those still support him after another 2 games without a win. This does remind me of when GJ joined and we went too many games without winning and fans were calling for him to go.
Sorry but I fail to see some of the arguments or postulations in this thread............. Last season we threw games away in my opinion because SOD wanted to start afresh and assess the squad, it must have been a "an agreed thing" as relegation may have been tighter but happened anyway. We have replaced half the squad with youngsters from everywhere, unlike Swindles that have 6 spurs players in their squad that have played together for a few years! WE should be getting behind the team not snipe at them there is 2 or 3 posts appearing that are negative and un called for ............. WE NEED TO BE POSITIVE AND GET BEHIND THE TEAM, not snipe and moan so that at some time down the road if it doesn't pan out " I told you so" well maybe if you supported and didn't try to drag them down it would pan out...............................
Skuse is playing at higher level. If Emmanuelle Thomas wants to fulfill what his ability suggests he can do he needs to add other elements to his game. The best still work. The Jetters fan group should realise he is not priceless, he is part of a team.
I KNOW we have better players at Ashton Gate than 90% of this division. We can argue about abilities within the squad but overall we have more than enough to make the P/Os at least. We're fu***d because of SOD's persona, leadership and motivational skills - of not just the players, the fans as well. I sure as hell know why it didn't take long for Forest to get rid.
Johnson - Millen - McInnes now O'Driscoll The fans all wanted them out - look where that got us The club is undergoing a massive transition both on and off the pitch - SoD has bought into the strategy to fix things for the long term - on the pitch the transformation will take more than a season because of the players still on contracts (Kilkenny, Pearson etc). There is no quick fix, though I do think that we have brought in some decent young players. Our job is to get behind them every time they go on the pitch
Fans wanted them out but at no point was the fans choice picked when it came to who to bring in. Fans each time wanted someone to come in who played exciting football but each time we got the same type of manager who plays the same type of football with the same results so we might as well have stayed with johnson. I guess the difference between SOD and GJ is that SOD has given the some of the youngsters a chance where GJ sold all of our good younsters to bring in journeymen. How the team might look now if we still had Henderson to play in goal
Forest were seventh/eighth when they removed Mr O'driscoll. What is wrong with his persona? Why does it matter? What is wrong with his motivational skills? Do you feel players are not trying? What performances would you say players this season had not performed honestly? Why are Citys XI 90% better than Swindon, Shrewsburys, Peterbrough etc? As you have basically written off the Head Coach and therefore want any strategy the club now has in place abandoned it would be interesting to see how you articulate that beyond hyerbole.
"As you have basically written off the Head Coach and therefore want any strategy the club now has in place abandoned it would be interesting to see how you articulate that beyond hyerbole" I wouldn't hold your breath...
Why would he be wasting his breath? I would have thought that is whst this forums role is? I was there yesterday, and again for periods of the match City were the better team. City do for whatever have errors in them all of the time at this point, but I can't put that down to anything but individual lapses rather than lack of defensive acumen e.g last season front to back. If the poster in question takes issue with tactics perhaps he would like to provide his long term fix. Maybe abandonig possession based football, scrubbibg the acedemy and utlising "pomo" with lumps front and back. As it is I expect City to turn a corner soon. The performance does not always get the result it deserves, only once this sesson have a looked at a game and thought the team was listless. The result can be an imposter etc, keep at it and results will come. Reckon City will be fine ... Mogadon isnt needed apart from the odd poster here.
I was there yesterday as well, not really with it during the game after the personal events at home but the daughter wanted to go, and to get her out the house was a bonus. The only thing I think we are missing is we need to drop school boy football, where's we have no off the ball movement. Swindon created space with ease, but when we had the ball apart from Wagstaff there was very little movement and the player who had the ball didn't have options. This will come, but this needs time for players to understand their team mates. For all the people saying this league is rubbish, I thought Swindon looked a decent side well organised, spread the ball well and where I would like to see us. We just need to be patient.
'Maybe abandonig possession based football, scrubbibg the acedemy' Possession football ? Possession football is a great aim. However all we've seen is passing along the back 3 or 4 times then we send it. Say what you see, don't spout SOD's bull ****. The Academy - Who's advocating getting rid, and anyway it wasn't me who picked Kilkenny ahead of Reid. 'abandonig', 'scrubbibg' the 'acedemy' - Mogadon, respectfully think you've missed your dose. Who needs Mogadon - I'm off to watch Downton,
Others predicted that you would not be able to address quite simple questions. All "you "have seen is 3 - 4 times then ... Others (I) will have another opinion. As you are not providing a cohesive alternative, with a replacement head coach and coaches (?) it was also right to assume you would also scrap the academy. From community trust - academy - XI the club is being pointed towards a style of football. If this technique based football is to be abandoned local clubs can point their skilled kids to Southampton ( training in Keynsham - Bath), or even Rovers. A pathway isn't needed for kick and boot - % football.
There is nothing wrong with sending the ball if the pass is on and its completed. There is a lot wrong with sending it and hoping though. Saturday City played some decent football to feet again. On match of the day I watched Palace. creating all sorts of problems for themselves by attempting to play the ball out from the back. Point there is it takes time realistically for this to take root in tbe club. Top to bottom. I hear all the tine fans shoutng for City fo get in forward, stick it on the box. Same fans would probably call tika taka boring. Rovers had Devon.Whites and Christian McCleans. City under Dicks, Cooper, Jordan had teams that tried to pass. Under the rules some fans now have all three would have been sacked very quickly.
I don't understand this belief that City have some of the best players, or one of the best squads in this division? who says and by what criteria, two academy players, two "prem" players with little or no experience, some players who struggled in the championship and a couple of loans. Is this deluded thinking? we are a league one team with some young players who are learning their trade and a manager who is trying to instill a "better" way of playing. Yes results might not be going the way we want but apart from maybe Peteborough, I think the football played and some of the application shown is better than some of the dross that was served up last season with highly paid experienced players. Improvement is not far away. If I'm proved to be wrong I will happily admit it and go and support Forrest Green Rovers (sod it scrap that last bit!) but wonder how much praise the doubters will heap on SOD if we pick up and climb the table. If you think we have problems look at Sheffield United, a bigger club than us, a wealthy owner and a new manager. As I have already said "No god given right"
