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And Pardew's lack of tactical awareness strikes again - My thoughts on the Hull game.

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  1. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    The game plan set by Pardew was -

    Take the spirit from the match against Villa and go forward and win lads. Loic, Papiss and Hatem, you bomb forward. Yohan you too. Vurnon you stay back. Moussa you make runs.

    We come in to matches with the same lack of a game plan. We just go forward and hope that are best players will do it for us.

    Hull City's strength is crosses into the box which they've obviously been working on....

    Our players looked as if they weren't expecting Hull to do anything from the ****ing wings! Just allowing them space to cross!!

    Pardew should have been instructing his players to get tight to the Hull wingers and allow them no time to cross. Instead we allowed them about a fortnight!

    Also - Please stop saying that Cisse can't play football. What the **** is he supposed to do without service? He's had one good chance in the first 5 games and he put it on target.

    Ratings -

    Krul - 4 - **** kicking, looked uncomfortable.

    Debuchy - 3 - Dreadful defending. A few decent crosses but nothing came of them.

    Colo - 5 - Bullied around and couldn't Hull's strikers. Some good passing to get us up the pitch at times and good ball playing. But not very good in defence.

    Mbiwa - 4 - Sloppy on the ball. Not a very good game.

    Santon - 3 - More **** crosses and poor defending.

    Anita - 7 - Best player again. We'd have conceded a couple more if it wasn't for him picking up some of the oppositions runs. He's the most intelligent player we have.

    Sissoko - 5.5 - Allowing himself to lose his composure a bit too much. Some good work at times but not his best.

    Ben Arfa - 2 - Hull figured him out completely. But Ben Arfa will either be **** or excellent so it wasn't that much of a surprise.

    Cabaye - 2 - Another match and didn't really do much. If you told me he'd be off before half time I would have bet on him getting sent off. He flies into plays and can't learn to stop himself.

    Remy - 6 - Scored both goals, but he is a real lazy bastard. Never tracks back and doesn't work hard.

    Cisse - 3 - No service. Our crosses are ****, and our balls into the box in general are pretty ****.

    MOTM - Anita easy.
     
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  2. 2010 tops dog

    2010 tops dog Well-Known Member

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  3. Bud66

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    And says a bad day at the office ! How many more especially at home
     
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  4. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I thought it was just a bad day at the office to be honest. Our defending pathetic and our play lethargic. Just need to pick ourselves up and move on. Nothing much wrong tactically for me, we just didn't perform. Whether the players just weren't at it or were poorly prepared is impossible to say, we were just poor.
     
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  5. 2010 tops dog

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    Who is accountable for preparing them ?


     
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  6. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    A terrible day at the office! Pardpoo out!
     
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  7. Bud66

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    It's happening too often to be passed off as just a bad day at the office
     
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  8. The mighty DeBOOSHy

    The mighty DeBOOSHy Active Member

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    So Pardew plays the formation you all wanted, with the players you al wanted, and yet he's to blame? Brilliant. Explain please?!

    Poor performances from too many people today - gives them the kick up the arse they need for next week. Tough games coming up so they won't be so complacent.
     
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  9. Keith Fit

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    Highlights Pardew's deficiencies again. Bad substitutions, sticking with the wrong players (JUST TAKE FCKIN CISSE OFF FOR CHRISSAKES), massive failure post-halftime (I swear they go in at halftime and just sit there, exchanging the odd awkward glance). Bud's right - Sunderland, Reading, Liverpool, West Ham, now Hull. How many god-awful home performances have to be suffered? I read somewhere that Kinnear looked smug because Remy scored - I hope he looked positively sheepish when Cisse had yet another disastrous 90 minutes but we had no-one to bring on in his place.

    That said, this 11 players should be blowing teams like Hull away - all due respect, but we're talking about full Internationals, players recognised by some of the game's finest as good players, being taken apart and losing, fairly, to Hull fckign City fckign Tigers. Whatever Parpoo's doing isn't working. We went into this match with a variety of quotes ringing in our ears - how Ben Arfa will win Balon D'or (has Messi played that badly EVER?!), how Newcastle should be capable of beating ANYONE (i.e. not just Hull) at SJP and of course Parpoo saying "judge me after 8 games". Game 1 - Hull (h) - Defeat. Looking forward to seeing what, if any, repercussion there would even be if he lost all 8. Don't get me wrong, there's worse teams to follow (not going well down the road, for one). But it's the utter lack of hope that's the problem with Newcastle. At least in Sunderland they hope/expect a managerial change, but we won't get that. And what's worse is the spotlight is now back on all those problems we were sick of at the end of last season. In many ways, it was the same performance that saw us turned over against Reading. Heads dropping, a lack of impetus. There seems to be no desire for this club to want to win by more than one goal - that I cannot understand, but that's exactly how it looks. Is that the manager's aim? Sneak a few victories to build some confidence? We scored and should be putting the foot down, enjoying the occasion and winning by two, three or more. Sure, they're not good enough to go toe-to-toe with the top 6 and sneaking a point or two amidst that crowd is fine. But I don't get it - we scored, were massively on top then, what, just dug in? Someone help me out here. But it's not the first time and by the laws of physics won't be the last time. At least not with this clown in charge. But then with the circus that surrounds him, what other options would there be?
     
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  10. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    It's not just about who plays and in what formation. It's how the players are told to approach a game and deal with the opposition,
     
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  11. Atticus

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    Because a manager's job includes far more than just picking a team and a formation, you utter buffoon.

    Embarrassing drivel.
     
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  12. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

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    How many times have we gone into half-time and then come out incredibly sluggish and complacent in the second? I put that down to Pardew. Happens far too often. I'd love to know what he says to the players.
     
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  13. Heed

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    At 2 - 2, the game could have gone either way today, but the injury to Cabaye and the substitution with Gouff, made no sense whatsoever.
    We ended up with 4 attacking players, and Sissoko and Anita trying to shore up the middle.
    I think Pardew handed the initiative to Hull and they took control of the midfield.

    I realise Cabaye had to go off, but Tiote should have come on for him, like for like with Gouffran then on for Cisse.
    I'm not a great believer in having Anita, HBA, and Marveaux on the pitch at the same time, for me we're too lightweight especially when HBA is having a stinker.

    Take nothing away from Hull today, they played well, but, Pardew didn't help with the subs.
     
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  14. Agent Bruce

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    Pards half time team talk.

    Now listen guys, I've quite got a wedge on the opposition to win today and get me enough to pay a gambling debt off, take your foot off the pedal and let them get back into the game.
     
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    You clearly think you are better than you are , no great surprise that we won today we are man for man easily as good as you .
     
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  16. Atticus

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    I've always believed the commonly held perception that Newcastle fans ludicrously overrate their own players and retain wildly unrealistic expatiations to be ill-informed, offensive guff, but this type of disrespectful, delusional nonsense is firmly challenging that belief.
     
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  17. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    Krul - 4 - Good save first half, flapped at and was a bystander for everything else.

    Debuchy - 0.1 - Worst performance by a RB I have ever seen. Embarrassing.

    Colo - 6 - Alright, not top form, but he was decent.

    Mbiwa - 6 - I think he was pretty good. Both centre backs hampered by pathetic wing-backs.

    Santon - 2 - Horrible performance.

    Anita - 7 - I thought he was very good again. His best bit was first half. A loose ball was knocked into the middle, and Anita knew to make a touch and set up an attack for us would mean getting annihilated by a Hull player, but he bust a gut to get there and make that touch. Wonderful. The rest of the team should take note.

    Sissoko - 1 - One of the worst players on the pitch. Missed simple passes, lost the ball easily, started crying whenever he was touched. Awful.

    Ben Arfa - 4 - When he was in space, we didn't use him, he tried to make stuff happen, but was double or triple marked, while the others stood and watched.

    Cabaye - 2 - Poor play all-round by him again. His set plays stink as much as his general play now.

    Remy - 8 - Scored two goals... YAYYYYYY... Shame we can't defend... and that he missed a late chance to get a point. He must rue being stuck with us instead of QPR.

    Cisse - 2 - He jumped out of tackles. WIMP. He isn't good enough to be able to protect himself from harm... He should be busting a gut to get the ball.

    MOTM - Remy. Good strikers goals. Looked a threat all the time.

    JPF's assessment: Yes, Pardew is f***ing at fault. What the f*** is with the tactic of getting to the edge of the area and then hoping a moment of brilliance from one of the players wins the game? He's set us up to get to the penalty area and nothing more. There's no incision, direction or potential plan in the offing. This isn't just a recent thing we can put down to players being ****. This pattern has been the same again and again and again in matches since last season. We get to the box and go "Right, now f***ing what???? Where's Ben Arfa?".... It's horrendous.

    What's worse is the "we're losing, let's revert to lump it football with a bunch of midgets upfront". Woeful. We wouldn't survive the championship or lower playing like that, never-mind this league.

    Huddlestone was superb. His passing a delight, and he drifted into CB to just stop everything dead. Signing of the season perhaps. Stevie Bruce had Hull well drilled and we made the game easy for them.
     
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  18. Agent Bruce

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    Yes, Agent Bruce outthought and outsmarted Pards today. Agree about Huddlestone, thought he had a great game.
     
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  19. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't really too difficult to outsmart him though was it... It was the same old story. If I write down what I thought his tactics were today, every statement I made would be as true of that game as of the next 30 odd.
     
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  20. Agent Bruce

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    Aint that the truth.

    He looks like a tailors dummy and acts and thinks like a dummy.
     
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