Irony - Diving: Palace chief calls for red cards

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24105809

I'm half giggling and half bemused. No wonder they wanted Holloway there, peas in a deluded pod.

I actually agree with the sentiment, divers should be sent off, the message would soon get through. The Palace chairman calling for it though is just chuffed up.

 

Reaction to the articles about Ashley Young.

http://theibyss.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/ashley-young-not-only-villain-in.html

Just nice to see Palace now suffer from these decision seeing that their promotion was built on diving.

 

I agree that rules on diving have to be harsher, but I'm not sure about straight red, there are genuine fouls with contact that get blown up for diving plenty of times a season, that would suddenly turn into a host of wrongful dismissals. I know the league chiefs don't like to overpower referees once a decisions been made on the pitch so it would probably never happen, but I think upon sufficient video evidence analysis post match sanctions should be handed out to anyone caught diving, maybe both fines and bans.

However, I don't see how cheating to score a goal is any different to cheating to prevent a goal, ultimately they achieve the same advantage, and the on pitch penalty for one is just a booking where as the other is a straight red. Baffling.

 

Why dont they puinish people retrospectively? It happens in Italy, handing bans out when tv evidence proves a dive, so why dont they do it here? Are they serious about it or not?

But it really is comical them complaining about it. How many pens did they get last year - wasnt it in the teens?

 

They do it for fouls so why not. I hate diving but it has been shown in the pat that sometime the player is moving so quick that the slightest click will send them flying. I doubt though that Ashley Young will get many more in the coming months, he'll be the boy who cried wolf from now on.

 

They were very unlucky with those decisions on Saturday but no one deserves it more than Palace.

 

Yep, he's going to end up suffering from it and I suspect this is the REAL reason Moyes is annoyed at him and he's covering it under the guise of fair play.

Sometimes it is difficult to prove a dive as even when it's not a foul people can fall over and it look like a dive, but Young makes such an obvious movement with his leg towards the defender that it really is undoubted. Will Moyes and indeed Roy drop him and make a public point of why they did it? If they did the message would soon get home.

 

I like and agree with the bolded bit. Probably better than on the spot as like has been said, sometimes its not always obvious.

 

It's very ironic coming from Palace. Last season they could have trouble raising a team for some games if this had been applied to them.

I agree with harsher penalties for perpetrators. It is cheating and it has massive implications. Think about this scenario: last game of the season someone takes a dive (let's call him Mr Y). It isn't spotted by the referee, who incorrectly gives a penalty which is scored and the team that suffered from this are relegated as a result.

The relegation kicks in pay reductions for some of the squad, others are released and other cuts are made to account for the reduced income. The cheating player has caused some of his professional colleagues to lose their jobs and/or get pay cuts. They must be too stupid and too self centered to understand the implications of their actions: otherwise how could they sleep at night?

It probably wouldn't work, but how about making this the responsibility of the PFA and have the players police it themselves?

 

While Ashley Young is a notorious diver I think the penalty call was correct in this instance. As Oregon says it is truly ironic that Holloway should be complaining after Palace's penalty awards after numerous dives by Zaha etc last season. But I don't agree with harsher penalties except in really blatant cases as the refs in my opinion often get these "judgement calls" wrong. Very difficult calls to make.

 

Spot on. Cheating diving jessies - had it not been for useless referees getting conned they wouldn't have been anywhere near the playoffs last year