1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Deja Vu

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by ColinSharpe, Sep 12, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ColinSharpe

    ColinSharpe Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2012
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    6
    2011:

    - prolific striker sold in January: Caroll;
    - forward player acquired for nominal fee in Summer: Ba;
    - fuss from media about how NUFC 'hadn't replaced prolific striker sold in January': massive
    - fuss from fans about above: ditto;
    - Summer forward signings prem record (before signing, with relegated team): 7 in 13 (1-1.9)
    - Summer forward signings overall record (before signing): 76 in 154 (1-2)
    - Summer forward signings NUFC record: 29 in 58 (1-2)
    - nonsensical hyped up words eaten, along with hats ?

    2013:

    - prolific striker sold in January: Ba;
    - forward player acquired for nominal fee in Summer: Remy;
    - fuss from media about how NUFC 'hadn't replaced prolific striker sold in January': massive
    - fuss from fans about above: ditto;
    - Summer forward signings prem record (before signing, with relegated team): 6 in 14 (1-2.3)
    - Summer forward signings overall record (before signing): 75 in 211 (1-2.8)

    And, in the meantime, we added Cisse who replaced no-one and has scored 26 in 64 (1-2.4)

    Is that really that bad, or is it just because there weren't the sort of fees attached they mark a great player ?
     
    #1
  2. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Remy isn't ours to sell and as I recall there is no first option to buy him either as part of the loan deal. I hear the terms of the loan are expensive enough also so not really sure about the nominal fee bit
     
    #2
  3. 2010 tops dog

    2010 tops dog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    3,257
    Likes Received:
    201
    my thoughts are the fact we dont have the option to buy in next year is shocking and proves our lack of ambition !!!

    QUOTE=Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction;5339180]Remy isn't ours to sell and as I recall there is no first option to buy him either as part of the loan deal. I hear the terms of the loan are expensive enough also so not really sure about the nominal fee bit[/QUOTE]
     
    #3
  4. Freddd

    Freddd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    4,517
    Likes Received:
    1,162
    So, nobody has any complaint except the absence of an option to purchase ?

    And no one actually knows whether we have an option to purchase ?
     
    #4
  5. ColinSharpe

    ColinSharpe Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2012
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    6
    nominal fee being a few million not in transfer fees, i.e. loan fees, agent fees
     
    #5
  6. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    Whereas I have never really thought things are shocking, Stevie Wonder can see we continually gamble and leave ourselves short of options. I think it is essentially the glaring lack of ambition which fuels the frenzy.
     
    #6

  7. mag la rue

    mag la rue Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2011
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    12
    Maybe the gamble is QPR wanted £10m for the transfer or £1m + wages for the loan and said no future sale because we will need him when we're promoted.
    The gamble from us being they won't be promoted and with their parachute payment reducing next summer they cant afford to take him back so we offer them £5m and the player refuses to go anywhere else.
     
    #7
  8. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    Typical Ashley. Possibly a good one in that if we have a half decent season, he enjoys himself, he might well fancy nothing else. The spanner in the works is he does really well, a bigger club takes an interest and we are rendered toothless in our pursuit.
     
    #8
  9. haslam

    haslam Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2011
    Messages:
    12,750
    Likes Received:
    13,713
    I love the way the initial insane optimism of the thread was swiftly derailed into being a 'lack of ambition, we are inevitably doomed' feeling.

    Surely people still don't call us deluded do they? I see so little of that ammunition to work with nowadays.
     
    #9
  10. mag la rue

    mag la rue Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2011
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    12
    I don't think there's a sense of inevitable doom. just a bewilerment at the glaring issues in the deal.
    It seems stacked against us. And for a club that made a statement saying we won't do loans because they're stacked against us, it's yet another U-turn.
    The fans don't expect us to be on a par with Chelsea or Man U or Man City. But with the supposed finances we have it's not unreasonable to want us to compete with the rest of the league.
    But every statement from the club is the polar opposite of the last.
    Why if we made profit last year with a lower TV income, can we not compete with Everton, who are notoriously skint?
     
    #10
  11. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    40,642
    Likes Received:
    27,167
    I'm sure I've read this thread before...
     
    #11
  12. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    47,442
    Likes Received:
    3,237
    That's odd, a few people have said that.
     
    #12
  13. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    40,642
    Likes Received:
    27,167
    No need to keep repeating yourself AB.
     
    #13
  14. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    47,442
    Likes Received:
    3,237
    That's odd, a few people have said that too!
     
    #14
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page