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English Football - How do we make it better?

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by smhbcfc, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    please do! It would be the summer as that is the only time I have to be able to do it. Another thing is in the youth teams there are too many "joystick" "playstation" coaches. They tell the kids what to do at every single play, situation, training, games. The kids have no thought process on their own and become robots to one way of thinking. They don't properly learn the game that way. Guided discovery is the best way to teach the kids. Show the technique, show what you want, give them the final piece and help guide them on their way to it. May be surprised at what they do that you thought they couldn't.
     
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  2. johnsonsbaby

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    Coaches are taught the 'FA Way' - maybe that needs looking at as the F A Way isn't a winning way anymore, if it ever was.
     
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  3. luvgonzo

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    Exactly, it's no good changing grass roots if we are not going to educate the current coaches and get them on board.
     
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  4. StJohn_Red_Legend

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    C'mon, even I can understand the question. Does the lad produce good solid ropes or feeble strings? Does he curl a good'un?
     
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  5. Rubadub

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    I think the young English player are too arrogant. They play a few times for their club and they think they are superstars. Another thing is when the u21 tournaments come around England don't send their best teams for whatever reasons and I think them players are missing out on some good experience of tournament football.
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    At the end of the day, you could be playing futsal, 5 a side or whatever - if the coach is telling you do the wrong things, then you're going to grow up continuing to do the wrong things.

    Good coaches who can teach the kids the right things from an early age is crucial. Better quality of coaches badly needed.
     
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  7. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Doesn't help when they're on big contracts as well. There's a lack of hunger and desire.

    As much as we all hate him, Rooney is a great example in terms of raw aggression and hunger - the last street footballer we're likely to see for a very long time here in England.
     
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  8. luvgonzo

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    Is curling the thing with brushes and ice?
     
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  9. Milk

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    England didn't win anything in early 80s or 90s either before premier league was overflowing with so many foreigners...

    I actually suspect if we had less of the best in the premier league we would do worse internationally.

    We may have fewer players to pick from but the ones we have have better experience playing the worlds greatest players.


    The problem is with kids. It might help if the FA did better job of having academies. Don't let kids under 17 sign up for league clubs.

    Let the FA run the academies for the best of the youth and train them in best possible way... take some of the money going to Prem clubs and get the best coaches.


    Or we can do what France does and offer citizenship to any good footballer from a former colony. Our empire was bigger than theirs... we should have more foreigners to pick from.
     
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  10. BCR

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    True to a point but they also have Clarefontaine and that place produces players all the time. Things like they don't playa competitive match until they are 13, focus solely on perfecting technique until that point and then introducing tactics. making sure the players are technically proficient and it is hard to argue the results.
     
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  11. Rubadub

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    The English Cricket and Rugby team do it so why not <laugh>
     
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  12. luvgonzo

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    This is so important and very much lacking in UK coaching it's painful to see the way some kids pass and shoot nobody has ever shown them how to pass other than "use the side of your foot".

    I was asked to help out a lad with his shooting in a training session when I looked at his body position during a shot I was astonished that he wasn't in pain everytime he struck a ball.
     
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  13. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Yes FFS <doh>
     
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  14. luvgonzo

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    No he's crap at that.
     
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  15. BCR

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    I have actually seen an ACL tear from striking a ball, her form was so bad it just went! It was crazy.
     
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  16. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    He might be a natural <laugh>
     
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    The lad I was coaching was 13 at the time and I just couldn't get him to change the body shape he complained how weird it felt to straighten up and get his head over the ball, if you don't get their posture right early on it's a long road back.
     
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  18. Red Hadron Collider

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    The right sized wellies is crucial too <whistle>
     
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    Stop derailing y'twat! <laugh>
     
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  20. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I NEVER derail <ok>
     
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