I wanted to pose a topic for debate; Does Roy Hodgson get way too much abuse off LFC fans? I said "OUR" in the title as I've given him plenty of abuse in my time. However, anyone would take the job if offered wouldn't they? It was a great opportunity for him but just perhaps 4 men really deserve all of our ire. 1. Tom Hicks 2. George Gillett 3. Christian Purslow. 4. Kenny Dalglish Why? The first 2 are self evident. I sometimes wonder if they had not sold as much of Rafa's team out from under him would he have left OR even given hodgson a team what would have happened.. Why purslow, wasn't he part of the 3 trio that booted G&H out.. isn't he a hero? Simply put this guy went out and hired Roy, bought joe cole on his own and really showed incompetence But why kenny? Well he wanted the job, he was part of hodgson's hiring. is that a reason to go mad? Maybe it was done with the best of intentions ................... But there's the rub... poor old roy. he got shafted with an awful team. Joe cole as his star and yet... he royally screwed it up with even worse buys of his own. So for me... Roy still deserves a lot. He's the only LFC manager not to win a trophy since shankley was hired for a reason as FSG tried very hard not to make a change when they knew nothing about football. But Purslow is the one for me I'd like to give a sly dig to.... G&H are filthy scum but we know that. What are your thoughts?
They are all to blame, but despite the wider circumstances Roy remained inept and way out of his depth.
He was given a **** team and added Poulsen and Konchesky to that. Had a love in with SAF and Utd. He deserves some stick. But some of the others deserve more.
he is not club manager material. he may have been good abroad and i heard he revolutionized the way a team played and was successful (Sweden i think) but this country he is poor and his ideas and tactics are more out of date than King Kennys was. he is ok as a national team manager, maybe not England though as the pressure put on by the media is bordering on fecking ridiclous, but when he was with us he was shocking, and yes it was justified, crap tactics, depressing football, bottom 3 of the league!!!!, give me a good reason why it was misguided, but glad he has gone, just hope he doesn't feck up our youngsters playing for the joke that is a national team.
Parry deserves more stick than he actually got, in my honest opinion But Roy's dinosaur approach to 21st century football was never going to win anybody over was it. We can see the same thing happening with England. Luckily, I don't give a **** about England
Hodgson deserves all of the condemnation that he receives from Liverpool supporters. He proved to be inept as our clubs manager. He did not understand the club or the supporters. He settled for second best. He tried to be a pragmatist in a club that lives upon hopes and dreams. In other words he was way out of his depth. His signings and interviews reflect that. However, the REAL culprits are H&G and the previous regime. They were ably assisted by both Purslow and Rafa (in so far as he became more involved in a battle with H&G than in managing the team). The only person who does not warrent condemnation (at least at this point) was Kenny.
They're all to blame but Woy was out of his depth! Also, he appears to be out of his depth when it comes to England, in the group we're in, the likes of Fabio and Sven would be close to qualification already!
I actually felt sorry for Hodgson. We all knew he was not the right manager to get us back into the CL and challenging titles. He would have been a fool not to have taken the LFC job. He is a manager who is suited to mid-table/relegation clubs and he will succeed there. I blame the people who hired him - H&G are idiots, Purslow is the biggest mug in the game and Ayre had his say in the matter as well. However, I will say fair play to him because he had the balls to manage outside of England and we should be encouraging players and coaches to experience football abroad.
So everyone is in agreement that Roy deserves it for negativity alone. out of depth and really badly performance... maybe cost us torres who knows. I'm good with that. I have a very strong opinion on Parry and purslow but do not in any way share opinion on ayre being anything like them. I agree that hodgson cannot manage england either
I don't know that ayre did have a say. he was commercial director but he would have been on the board so I do not know. Kenny was on the "panel" to hire the guy but who else was?
I read that he was involved in the process of removing Rafa, and appointing Roy. May have been a small part or it might have been lies for all I know. Going by your last post - Roy was definitely negative but can we knock him for that? The reason I say that is because he's always been like that so we knew what we were getting with him. The blame should be laid to the people who hired him. As an example - Carroll and Downing are sh*te but it's not their fault the club paid £55m on the pair and offered over £170k a week in wages,
For goodness sake the watchword regarding Hodgson's appointment was "A SAFE PAIR OF HANDS". He was never supposed to be planning for an attack on the CL or the Prem!!! The problem was that Hodgson was not 'a safe pair of hands'. Sure there were many internal and external problems. Rafa had to go and the whole club had to be sold. The last thing we needed was an idiot who didn't understand the club or even his players and put his foot in his mouth every time he was interviewed.
I'm totally with you on this one Jimmy. Roy was never the right man for the job from the vast majority of fans perspective however.....as MITO says in the op WE offered him the job and why the **** would he be so stupid as to turn it down?? What would those who show so much vitriol have said about him had he shown no ambition at all? Yes he suited us like a glove made of thorns but most of us knew it the minute he was linked. So the people to blame are those who hired him. Trace it back further and you can blame the bellends who sold us to the ****wits who nearly destroyed our club. Simple. Great thread MITO
Well... I don't know. I think he was even more negative than we thought he'd be. "stability" was one thing and we got sold that but he was REALLY negative. Defensive ok we were used to with rafa or houllier or even how brendan is setting up for the last two games BUT thats not negative... he was defeated before he started.
Torres was sulking the minute Rafa left. No doubt hiring Hodgson didn't help but him being a sulky little **** didn't help us. At the end of the day he was getting what most of us consider a ****ing massive weekly wage from the club. Whoever the manager was he should have had the bollocks and decency to keep earning that wage until the day he left. Think on one other thing....yes Roy got sacked because he was awful. His first summers signings were trash but then so were Brendans....Rodgers recovery really began when he made good signings in January. How would Roy have faired if/when Suarez came in? He was lined up before Kenny arrived. Just a thought.....
Torres wasn't the same in Rafa's final season either, the rot had already set in by the time Woy arrived!
The issue with Roy Hodgson was his style is the opposite to Rafa Benitez, and there for the opposite to what our players are suited to, and that his style at the time was very old fashioned and he refused to adapt and modernize.
