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We turned down Jordan Rhodes

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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

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    .. According to Mark Douglas...

    This just keeps getting better...
     
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  2. Agent Bruce

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    Who needs Jordan Rhodes with the star studded team that we've got.
     
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  3. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

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    At this current time I would be happy with just ONE player and I can't even see us getting that one 'over the line'. The whole thing is a shambles and Kinnear questions apparent 'Boo boys?' Is this fat **** from planet earth? I really am losing the will to give a flying **** about this season as the the owner, DOF and manager can't seem to give a **** either.
     
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  4. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    I assume he was offered to us for over £10M which he is certainly not worth it
     
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  5. Heed

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    Not saying he's a bad player, but how much is he actually worth?

    To date, his career has been spent in Division One with only last season in the Championship, so, no one really knows what level he can play at.
    Is he strong enough and will he be up to PL standard?

    If any PL club signs him, they will be taking a chance and Blackburn like most clubs want too much for their British players, making him an expensive gamble.
    I can only see him as an alternative to Cisse, not to play alongside him, like we need.
     
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  6. Warmir Pouchov

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    I'd happily take a risk on Rhodes, quality player
     
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  7. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Agree with Pouchy totally.
     
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  8. 2010 tops dog

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    5m maybe but not worth anymore for a championship
     
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  9. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

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    Problem is, we were offered him, but for how much? Blackburn paid £8m on him, and are going to want more. Are we looking at £13, 14m here? Because that seems a hell of a lot to me.
     
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    Blackburn paid £8m for him so they would want that back + profit.
    Also possible that Huddersfield had a % sell on clause inserted for his next move.

    Price has to be a minimum of £10m, maybe £12m that Blackburn would be looking for from a PL club.

    27 goals last season in the Championship - 8 more than Andy Carroll scored for us down there.
    Nobody really knows if he good enough, does he have enough strength - bit similar build to Defoe if you ask me and he can certainly put the ball in the net.

    There comes a time when you have to take a gamble on your gut feeling and maybe this is one of those times.
    I'm 50/50 on him to be honest, but if we went for him, I'd have no complaints and if it didn't work out, at least the club had tried something instead of doing f*** all.

    Unfortunately, Rhodes was born within the shores of the British Isles and doesn't speak with a foreign accent, so we wont be the club that takes that gamble. We would rather take the risk on another foreign player who may or may not adapt to English football.
     
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  11. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    But if you look at Blackburn this season, got rid of Murphy, Olsson, Pederson (trying to flog him), Robinson is being frozen out and then look at the number of kids in the first 11 it smacks of them being up **** creek and need money fast. All of their big earners are being let go.

    I bet he's available for 7-9 million.

    I know that isn't cheap, but is it anymore of a risk than Gomis who has never played in English football and is 6 years his senior with no resale value??? In my opinion Rhodes would be less of a risk.
     
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    I agree. No matter what the price, Rhodes has to be less of a risk than Gomis and his wages would be lower so in the long term, the cost could be similar.
    Maybe not the correct analogy, but I would compare taking a risk with Rhodes the same way as Harvey did with Supermac and Keegan with Andy Cole.
     
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  13. Warmir Pouchov

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    Rhodes is fairly strong despite his build. There is more than one way to play that front man role anyway. As well as just a pysical type like a Benteke, there is being intelligent enough to find space and drop off, have a great touch. He has that in his locker. In the modern game, 10m is at the lower end of the scale for a prolific striker. I'd have happily went for him and Austin. You'd probably have paid 14m for the pair. With those kind of goal records behind them, that would be fair enough. Only 23 and 24 so the right age too.
     
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    He doesn't speak French so JK decided he wouldn't fit it.
     
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  15. Moorsleymountainman

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    Wouldn't worry about that. JK won"t be able to tell the difference between an accent from Lancashire and Lyon.
     
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  16. CaliToon

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    I'd say Gomis was less of a risk because if it doesn't work out we could sell him back to a European club where he has a decent rep. If we get Rhodes and it failed, we'd struggle to recoup the money as it would be obvious that the championship was his level (a la nugent a few years back). All academic anyway as we probably won't sign either
     
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  17. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    It's so frustrating that we bid 15m for for PEA and for that amount we could probably get Rhodes (9m) & Ince (6m) and we'd probably save in wages too.
     
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    Did we really bid £15m?
     
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  19. Agent Bruce

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    There's that to it.
     
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  20. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    I'd like to think so and it was widely reported that we did too. Only reason I believe it is that we scouted him loads and we must have known the kind of price we'd be paying for him.

    Even if we didn't bid we must surely have 15m kicking around to get those two promising British lads. If we sell Cabaye we could then get Will Hughes (8m) and McCarthy (10m) and for an outlay of 15m in total we've then got some good squad depth, added some British players to a squad that is unbalanced (nationtallity wise) and our outlay on wages would be the same or less than last season due to no Cabaye, Perch, Simpson, Harper.

    It's such an easy window to operate in, I mean the above named players have all been confirmed as available for pretty much the above prices, they'd all want to play premier league football in front of 52k and they'd all want game time which they'd all get (all four would make 15-20 starts with sub appearances on top IMO) and yet we're here with four days to go and we're chasing a 28 year old french striker that doesn't sound like he truly wants to come.
     
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