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Time to go Pardew

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Stevie T, Aug 24, 2013.

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  1. magicbus

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    Thing is Joke in ear could be the next manager if AP is sacked. I`m sure MA gets some sort of perverse pleasure in seeing us suffer. So who do you want AP or Joke.
    If its Joke I bet the nxt Do F could be a small cheesy grin cockney who we all love to hate.
     
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  2. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    He has gone
     
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  3. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Prey tell what exactly a new manager is going to do with a useless striker, a midfield that can't create anything, and a defence which can't concentrate for five minutes. It's player personnel dragging us down at this present moment in time, not Pardew. Alan was partially at fault last year, this year I just can't fathom how it is his fault that he's lumbered with this bunch of untrained neanderthals. Surely Joe was brought in to fix this situation? Hmmmm
     
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  4. mmmkay

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    think I agree with this don't think even Sir Bobby could get a result with that lot
     
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  5. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Not even Jesus is resurrecting this b****...
     
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  6. Nutter

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    Pardew seems to be coaching players down - by that I mean coaching all the good qualities out of players. every player on the pitch today has shown they've got ability but Pardew is completely demoralising and destroying players who should be running rings around the likes of west ham. Any manager with a modicum of tactical nous (and mean deeper than what formation to use - like, getting players to run on past their marker and receive through balls etc.) would have this team turned into a cohesive unit that would be able to compete. We didn't have a shot on target all game. Not one.

    I'm not harking back here but remember when Keegan came in the second time after Allardyce - we took ages to win but slowly, game after game you could see players gaining confidence and looking like they had ideas - we were clueless under Allardyce and we're even worse now - Keegan got the team working as a unit and we started winning games and we didn't have as good a set of first teamers as we do now, back then. Point I'm trying to make is, Cisse isn't as bad as he's been lately, neither is Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Gouffran - they're all top quality - Pardew is coaching them down. He simply has to go.

    I don't know what I want from this season or what is even realistic but sitting watching a game with a few chances, edge of seat chances and a bit of excitement wouldn't go amiss - under Pardew we will saunter around the place and look completely devoid of ideas and he's had six-eight months to turn things around but it keeps on getting worse and worse.

    If Ashley gives a toss about his investment he'll change things quickly. He can never be accused of knee-jerks like we've had in the past. As much as we were awful under Dalglish, I'm still baffled as to why we got rid of a manager who was forced into selling out best assets and had to scrabble around the free transfer market to replace them. This time, we've got players Keegan/Robson, even Houghton, would take into the top eight with ease.

    Ashley must have so clue as to who he wants to replace Pardew with, he must have known for the last eight months that his sacking is on the cards - I hope to god that's not why JFK was brought in. Actually, it's getting so dire that I'm starting thing JFK couldn't do any worse.
     
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  7. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Problem is that whether he (we) like it or not this is the group of players he has at his disposal and he's showing with every passing game that he can no longer get the best out of them.

    He's unable to find/coach a system that gets Marveaux, HBA, Cabaye etc in the pockets of space between the opposition defence and midfield. We may line up 4-2-3-1 in some games but it ends up 4-4-1-1 with no fluidity.

    Ruiz, Lallana, Rooney, Mata, Coutinho, Pienaar, Hoolahan etc all manage to do it for their clubs but not us. Marveaux and Ben Arfa have to beat three men in their own half before they get in to that territory.

    Pardew isn't getting anywhere near the best out of this team and hasn't done for some time. If Gouffran had scored it would have served to only cover the cracks such as Cisse's goals against Stoke and Fulham last season.

    We need a manager with a reputation/track record of playing fluid, interchanging football. Poyet has said reputation, he is our man.
     
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  8. Bud66

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    I feel no sympathy for pardew sick of him coming out defending ashley so why should we have any sympathy for a man who defends the indefensible
     
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  9. Stevie T

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    Over 6 hours since Newcastle last registered a goal at home. I could do better coaching these players than that muppet in charge.
     
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  10. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately Pardew will be here as long as Ashley is.
     
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  11. Agent Bruce

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    Why should we feel sorry for him, he's getting well paid for what he's doing.
     
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  12. Geordie lass in the Fen

    Geordie lass in the Fen Well-Known Member

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    We seem to have taken up where we left off last season. Only two matches played, but the writing seems to be on the wall.
    I don't think the blame lies solely with Pardew, as Ashley, JFK and Lambias when he was around have all compounded the situation with crazy decision making.
    However, we are talking primarily about Pardew's ability to manage this team of players, and tactics and motivation and identity are all part of that responsibility.
    as time goes by, he does seem more and more inept and out of his depth. We have some mediocre players that much is true and we still need replacements, which it seems we will not get. We also have some very talented players, who seem unmotivated, lacking confidence and cohesion.
    Any decent player we might manage to persuade to join the club, will soon see that we are a club in chaos and decline, but much worse than that, we are a club whose owner and therefore strategic director, has no ambition.
    I hate the situation with Cabaye, but can understand why if l were him, l would be desperate to bet out of NUFC, before it's lack of ambition destroyed my prospects of moving forwards and achieving anything of note.
    If we get a new manager, then maybe he can turns things around, but could you stomach Ashley and JFK and the constant humiliation they seem hellbent on inflicting. Ask yourself who with any integrity would grasp this particular nettle? We may well end up with JFK in charge and whilst l am beginning to think that Pardew has had his day, is the alternative any less painful a pill to swallow?
     
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  13. nevfur

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    Sadly he seems unable to get a decent squad of players to play decent football or defend against schoolboy simple pass and move attacks such as Liverpools. We have good players but cant play well as a team and he seems unable to sort it out. He has to go but wont for a while yet. Joke in ear also has to go, he has achieved nothing in signing players (i could have got Remy on loan) created disharmony at the club and disharmony with the fans and always looks drunk when pictured anywhere.
    Whoever comes in and whenever it is we still need at least 2 new signings this window, preferably up to 4 with Cabaye going.
     
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  14. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Facts are facts, he is clueless and has lost the dressing room.
     
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  15. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    A new manager isn't going to solve our problems. Nobody is going to persuade our owner to actually do what is necessary and buy some actual strikers and creative players. I'm passive about Pards still but I think it is naïve to think sacking him is going to solve our problem of not being very good.
     
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  16. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    However, if you can get a manager who plays to individual strengths then sure the team will progress, signings or no signings.
    Wimbledon football with ball playing footballers isn't going to work as we can see
     
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  17. Seabass

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    I think we really need a change. Give everyone a kick up the backside. I agree with this thing of pards coaching the quality out of our players. We need someone with some more creative nous. I think poyet would be good. Great player and he had brighton playing proper football. These is very little suitable other options also.
     
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  18. Geordie lass in the Fen

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    Have to agree, the problem goes much deeper than just Pardew. There is no simple fix for our current plight. Major changes are required that start from the top down and that is simply not going to happen anytime soon.
     
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  19. KazakhToon

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    Issue being, are we getting to a position where the club has the choice between paying Pardew off or buying new players? Which one would have a more positive effect?
     
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  20. Hugh Briss

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    It's hard to believe we didn't get a single effort on target against 'Wist Aim' today... not scoring for 4 consecutive matches at SJP is pretty much all we need to know about our current plight.

    Dear oh dear. <doh>
     
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