For people going on about Castle Street before it became virtually an urban motorway, it took the route of the old Myton Street past the likes of the Earle de Grey PH and derelict dock warehouses and it was a proper ****hole as I recall in the 70's. In terms of these so called stables buildings, the Planners have sought to preserve a number of what they see as historic sites & buildings (albeit derelict ones) such as Queens Alley off Blanket Row in the recent past. Sadly it's their jobs to dig deeply into such things even though it may scupper a multimillion pound development such as this - they will however say that that's not their problem though. Its their shot across the bows so to speak to highlight the issues - if they get over ruled by the Officers or the Government Inspector on appeal they will be content in the knowledge they did their job. Wykeland are a well respected company and will I feel sure find a way round this problem - at least I hope so.
Clearly they're not - merely highlighting the point that Planners are Planners whichever Council they work for - in this case East Riding.
Basically it is all about protecting their jobs and position. Before I moved north 15 years ago, there was a clique of local government officers as they were called who played golf at the club I played at. They always played together, and sat in the bar together, and it was sickening how they all sucked up to the ones that were in the high position. You scratch my back and I will scratch your comes to mind.
Nobody on here seems to be criticising or questioning the motives of the building owner that let a piece of history fall into such a state.
I absolutely agree that Hull's oldest music hall should be preserved and restored, but I see no connection between that and a stable block in an alley which is falling down. Only 40% of it is original, it looks ****, it has no historic merit or artistic merit, it's just a pile of crumbling bricks in an alley and using it as a reason to halt this development would be ludicrous.
Local historian opposing new development http://www.thisishullandeastriding....tory-19700201-detail/story.html#axzz2ciT3O1ug
They need to try harder to build it elsewhere and/or the council need to meet them halfway with a creative compromise. I'm sick of seeing ****s **** up my city with crass greedy transient ephemeral **** 'developments'. The greedy knuckledragging ******s who removed the original green cupolas from the Tower (despite legislation expressly forbidding it) have ruined that building. Arseholes from Newcastle, Bradford or Manchester probably.
Isn't John Morfin (the local historian) the same cove who tried to stop the projected Siemens development on Alex Dock?
Aha! I was correct... http://www.thisishullandeastriding....tory-15232254-detail/story.html#axzz2cPzUVls0 ...and there's more: http://www.thisishullandeastriding....tory-11956008-detail/story.html#axzz2cPzUVls0 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1002443&page=2
I went to look at this building before the game on Saturday, it's absolutely not worth protecting, it looks exactly like the photo from all angles. There's no way I can see the planning committee rejecting the application just to protect this piece of unattractive crumbling brickwork.
I wonder how many of us from the forum, would have a weeknight sit in - Tell the Look North team- prior. U KNO - camp stove, billy tea, e.t.c for a few hours. Any thing 4 a bit of exposure.
Yes but he is a right twat. He was opposed to the Siemens planning application due to the steam crane on Alex Dock. If it brings new jobs for local people then I am afraid that takes priority and the historians local or otherwise can go **** thereselves.
We are talking about Gerathy ilk here. He might not be on the commitee but there is not just him that live in the ****ing past.
I've bumped this up, as today is the day that the planning committee do their site visit and make a decision on whether or now to grant planning permission. There was a bloke from the Civic Society on RH this morning, saying that they were recommending that the stable block be incorporated into the new development, but even he said it had little merit as a building and if it wasn't practical to incorporate it, then it shouldn't prevent the development from going ahead. He seemed far more excited about the amphitheatre development, which leaves the dry dock completely as it is now, but adds a steel structure that sits within it, providing banked seating and a stage, it sounded really good.
