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Mick Dennis article.

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  1. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Interesting viewpoint of the Everton match - and stats in general, but this hit the nail on the head for me <ok>

    Full piece here:- http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter...-only-ones-that-counted-meant-a-point-apiece/
     
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  2. oldcanariesfan

    oldcanariesfan Well-Known Member

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    It's a good article that and hits home how far we have come.

    Interesting focus on Bradders. With his face fungus he now reminds me of the great, sadly departed, Trevor Hockey who operated in a similar kind of role. Hockey was never known for his fancy footwork, 45 yard passes, exhillerating runs or expressive distribution. He was an aggressive SOB who harried the oposition, nullified their creativity, broke down play and was a general effing nuisance to their players in the middle of the park. I used to laugh when opposition fans used to chant "Hockey is a werewolf" and we'd all chant back "Hockey, Hockey bite their legs". Bearded Trev was a hero of mine.

    Bradders is our modern day Hockey and does his job very, very well.
     
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  3. goldeneadie

    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    Mick Dennis is very much a City supporter. But equally he is an intelligent football supporter. His analysis of football is always incisive and informative. A lot of football journalists could well try to copy his style.
     
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  4. Beefforhire-NCFC

    Beefforhire-NCFC Well-Known Member

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    He must know carrabuh
     
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  5. robbieBB

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    Somewhat ironic though, that in an article which draws attention to the distinction between stats on the one hand and the interpretation of them on the other, Mick fails to observe the distinction consistently himself:

    Quote: "Yet, just as I cleared my throat to shout at Match of the Day 2, Hansen began to debunk the statistics. He explained that Chelsea’s possession and completed passes were largely in and around the Hull penalty area. For their part, Steve Bruce’s boys retained the ball well at times – but only in their own half in the hope that nobody wearing blue would get too close.

    Chelsea (operating with only one striker, by the way) won the game in the first 24 minutes and then put on the cruise control – proving that football stats without elaboration can usher us away from the truth.

    So Hansen didn't "debunk the statistics" (first sentence), he debunked the naive use of them (second sentence)? We get the gist Mick, but people in glass houses .......... <laugh> <ok>
     
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  6. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Robbie, but you've lost me again (please don't try to explain however, I'm happy to stay in the dark on this one).

    Great article from Mick though! He gets some stick in certain parts but I've always though that he's a great writer personally and speaks far more truth and common sense than the majority of football journalists I've come across <ok>
     
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    robbieBB Well-Known Member

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    Always happy to oblige Munky. I agree about Mick Dennis. Actually seems to live in the real world, not the imaginary one created by his fellow journalists. <ok>
     
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  8. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    top, top article.

    mick gets on my nerves a bit sometimes but there's little doubt he's a passionate city fan and he knows the club inside out.

    when he writes about city, it's always a 'must read' <ok>



    ps. i also have absolutely no idea what robbie is talking about <laugh>
     
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  9. robbieBB

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    <laugh> Oh, well, I've had it pointed out to me on another thread that this after all is just a forum -- which apparently excuses pretty much everything. So you and Munky are let off! <ok>
     
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  10. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> i really tried to understand robbie, i really did! i read it three times but i'm flummoxed <laugh>
     
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  11. robbieBB

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    I can see I'm setting the standard far too high. Never mind, I'm shortly going to be starting a new thread entitled "Is CH Roberto Martinez with defensive nous?". You'll all be able to have a real go at me! It'll make a change from Wenger and Arsenal :grin: <ok>
     
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    I like the bit where he says we have overspent in bolstering our attacking positions because we are only going to play a 4-5-1? What the hell is he on about?

    So we should of only purchased Hooper and he and Becchio would be enough? What is he on?
     
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  14. KIO

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    Celtic have just been knocked put of the Champions League and I think this explains a lot as to why Gary Hooper saw his future away from Celtic Park. Yeah, great playing in front of 60K fans every other week thrashing pub teams.

    edit:- just realised it was the first leg, doesn't look good for them though has to be said
     
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  15. Northamptonncfc

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    My Dad agree's with a lot of what he says I think his alright, however the one sticking point I have with him is when he stuck up for the past regime of Roeder/Doncaster/Munby and co, that really struck a raw nerve with a lot of our fans, like the rest of though I suppose he has the clubs best interests at heart.
     
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  17. Fatter than Fleck

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    Robbie I understand your point however it is the sort of point Wonky/Carla used to make
     
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  18. robbieBB

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    <laugh> Well, Dave (and Detective Inspector Munky) will vouch that I am neither Wonky nor Carla. I may be just as tiresome, but my IP address is different! I do enjoy it when someone points out someone else's deadly sin while committing it themselves in doing so. Quite common on here too, and I've done it myself! :grin: <ok>
     
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  19. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Surely not!!!! <yikes>
     
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  20. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    He's right but I think Carla used it less times than Wonky!

    <whistle>
     
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