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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by simonstainrod, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. Jqpr

    Jqpr New Member

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    Where could we have been now if we never gave him the boot ,,, all wishful thinking but can't help wonder...
     
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  2. superHusky1

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    Same place as we are now, probably. NW was no PL manager IMO.
     
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  3. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    I have always had a lot of time for Warnock ................ always loved the old school management style gaffers but when Neil started telling all and sundry that one of his players was an absolute disgrace ( for a particular tackle he performed ) ............ to me, that should have stayed 'in house*' and I got the feeling that Neil was losing the support of the team.
    ( *he should of ripped shreds of the player face to face and told the media he have a little chat to the player )

    Apart from occasionally being too outspoken to the media, Neil was alright by me and has nothing to prove.
     
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  4. BlindFaith

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    Have to agree with this. The reason there's such a transition this season is down to the disastrous dealings of the past couple of seasons & the attitude of a lot of players bought. Clearly some of the older players will get replaced in the next couple of years but won't happen overnight which is what's had to happen during this transfer window & in general (apart from some of the loans out) think there's been a more sensible approach & would say the squad is looking reasonable for the championship campaign.
     
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  5. Flyer

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    No but it will if we sign the likes of Parker and Defoe to long contracts and massive wages.

    Look what happened when we won the league, they werent good enough and we had to replace them all leading to this whole mess, you want to go through that again?
     
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  6. superHusky1

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    More noise from Flyer. Every team that comes up from the Championship ALWAYS strengthens their squad. It wasn't the fact that the squad needed improving - which is a situation virtually all clubs find themselves in at the start of a new season - but the underlying strategy that was directing the acquisition of players, namely that the management thought we'd be pushing for a top ten spot rather than prioritizing staying clear of the bottom 3. It's frankly rather bizarre to criticize the promotion team for not being good enough - they were all Championship players for goodness sake!

    Yes, we need to be careful with the types of contract given out, but that doesn't mean we need to start having a little hissy fit every time the Club's linked with a player in their 30s - after all, if you're unhappy why don't you draw up a list of transfer targets and post them in a thread?
     
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  7. Flyer

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    What would be the point of that, its not as if the club would listen.

    We only build for the next season after which the club is torn to bits with at least a dozen comings and goings which are repeated year after year.
    We need to build so that when we go up, we keep everyone and add 2-4 players.

    Its been proven to work, our way has been proven not to work, what more do you need to understand its wrong?
     
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  8. superHusky1

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    It's for our 'benefit', not the Club's. You seem to be extremely proficient at pouring scorn on any or all of our potential signings so why not show us where the Club's going wrong and highlight a few choice picks from the divisions eager to make their name?

    I suggest you go on BBC Football or somewhere similar and look and see the number of players that are released by Clubs in the close season. I take it you're suggesting that Hill, Derry, Kenny, Helguson, etc should never have been signed in the first place 'cos they have been or will need to be replaced? Yes, we need some young, hungry talent brought into the squad but I think you need to comprehend that player replacement is part and parcel of every Club's inner workings.


    The squad fell apart last season for various reasons, not just because some players were aged over 30.
     
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  9. Flyer

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    I wanted Hooper when he went to Celtic, ask Igor, he wanted him too. I wanted Rhodes before he went to Blackburn too. I also wanted Austin and its finally one we got right.

    Thats not with hindsight, I wanted them for a long time.

    So Austin Remy Rhodes Hooper or Austin Remy Zamora Johnson.

    Who do you think is the best strike force out of those, who will play more games and who will score more goals?
     
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  10. superHusky1

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    This is all old news, these deals were done ages ago - not much point in harping on about these now. If we were in for him at all, Hooper clearly made a considered decision to reject us - probably on the basis of playing CL football. Plus, on his return Hooper was always gonna go to the PL after Celtic if the offer was there; we only got Austin because of a failed medical. So all your illustrating here is the well known fact that players would rather move to the PL than the Champ. As for Remy, his intention was to stay in the PL regardless of whether Rangers were or not.

    What about improvements to the squad that are actually feasible at this moment?
     
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  11. Flyer

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    Anyone like Simpson who's not over 30, injury prone and here for just one last pay day.

    Simpson moved here to be first choice, we need more like that over those who just care about their wallet.
     
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  12. superHusky1

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    Yet that needn't exclude players over 30. Not all of our veterans have proven worthless.
     
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  13. igor60

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    I believe, if its even ever comes true, that Parker is suppposed to be a short-termproject midfield general who is suppose to lead us back to prem again. If we succeded to bounce back to prem we probably seek other options to that spot. If we however offer him a contract which is over two years i will admit my fallacy.
     
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  14. Flyer

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    I know but it goes back to my point, more than half the squad are over 30 and will need to be replaced. No continuity equals constant turnover of players equals no team spirit and massive financial losses.

    We can handle replacing one or two guys through age every couple of years, we cannot handle replacing more than half the squad every season like we are doing at the moment.
     
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  15. superHusky1

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    But this season's turnover is necessary. Yes, we've brought in a couple of 30+ on short-term contracts but we've also captured two players in their twenties (Austin; Simpson), introduced another into the starting lineup and established another in what I consider to be his best position (Ned). In fact, 3 of our back 4 could potentially be there over the next few seasons - so it's not all doom and gloom. If Townsend and Duvan Z are brought in - and obviously it's just as 'if' at the moment - then the squad will have additional young players who bring down the average age of the playing staff. Transition, yes; catastrophe, no.
     
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  16. Carlos Valderama's Hairy Saddlebags

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    Whats happening with the Parker deal anyway? I thought this was to be all wrapped up by now? Any word on the Duvet either? I need answers!!!!!
     
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  17. Flyer

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    Again, the problem isn't bringing in a couple on their own, its having 13-15 who are already on their last contract.

    We should not sign any more old players no matter how good they were, because it just add to the problem and then the quickly become a shadow of their former selves.
     
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