watford sign first and only loan player

... don't think that holds much water AKCJ tbh ... we played one of the poorest Leeds sides I've witnessed in over 40 years ... names like Coventry, Wolves and Portsmouth are hardly filling the likes of Bournemouth with fear thses days ...

 

Hi Andy,

We also beat Leeds 6-1 last season away.
Bournemouth played some excellent football in the first half, they will not be a pushover this season.

 

Leeds down to 9 men?

Challenging.

 

Again selective superhorns - 'Limited company' status is available to any business for legitimate legal and business reasons ... our owners are very rich, in common with many clubs in the Premier League (and Championship) - the 'reckless spending' that you so love to quote is now for many clubs effectively underwritten by the wealth of the owners involved - because the likes of the Glazers, Roman Abramovic and our own Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha have far bigger fish to fry than football and would not consider being associated with 'failed businesses' ... due to the negative impact that it would have on their wider commercial interests ...

Finally, hair splitting - but OK by 'one family' then - unless it can be demonstrated that any transactions between clubs owned by the same families are conducted on an 'arm's length' basis... and the fact that your owner is in fact related to his father comes as no real surprise to me....

 

Honestly saw more proper passing football from Bournemouth in the first half last saturday than your team in 4 entire games last season.

Hopefully Zola's influence has rubbed off on your manager so you can play a better style. Give the new formation some gelling time, it took Watford quite a few games last season before they clicked.

 

Hang on... I just looked at your "first and only loan signing".

He was available on a free transfer. He was "expected to join Udinese", but instead joined Granada, and then they immediately loaned him to you with an option to buy?

Why didn't he just sign for you in the first place!?

 

So the damage done to individuals and local businesses by LCFC & LUFC going into administration in the past is just forgotten? I'm not so sure the victims will have.

FFP is designed to avoid this kind of avoidable reckless behaviour. I would imagine that the Pozzo's model is held in high esteem by the authorities. Affordable, sustainable and highly effective. It's here to stay i'm afraid.

 

Don't know, but if he can adapt to English football he will be signed permanently.

Last season we desperately needed a Wes Morgan type of guy. This guy is just the missing link, tall, powerful and can pass. Although our new guy Angella is a rock who also scores goals.

 

Doesn't realllllllllllly answer my question.

 

Nobody is underestimating the damage done to creditors of ANY businesses that are owed money by companies going under - but that is a far wider subject matter than just football - but you wouldn't want to stray from the one point that gives you ammunition to throw at our football club or Leeds now would you? - those 'businesses' affected would have been able to get tax relief on the 'bad debts' and indeed may have earned significant profits from those same clubs over many previous years ... but that doesn't fit with your crusade and the picture that you would like to portray that every every creditor was a 'liitle man' now made destitute by the collapse and now wandering the streets selling The Big Issue ... get a grip fella.

... and your 'imagining' that the football world is holding the Pozzo model in high esteem is frankly delusional ...

 

I don't even know what it means

 

Told you, dodgy business.

They are getting players they can't afford, circumventing FFP by paying the wages using their other clubs that aren't subjected to such rules.

 

Your own club is guilty of the same reckless behaviour. Being saved at the last minute before administration does not acquit your club of the same reckless behaviour. Your arrogance is nauseating.

And the Pozzo's model is in held in such high esteem by the authorities that the loophole it exploited last season has been closed immediately... they obviously don't agree with your arrogance.

 

Wrong Marko. Watford are paying the wages; none of the clubs in the Pozzo group pay big wages. Di Natale is the highest paid player in the 3 clubs - €1.2m a year = £20,000 per week. Faraoni who we signed from Udi was on €325,000 pa last season- about £5k per week. Funny that Di Natale is on about a quarter of what Zigic is on at Brum - shows how mad it has got in English football. It also shows that their is a way, by clever scouting and player development, to put together competitive teams without risking the future of the club.

 

Last time I checked your yearly turnover was ~£5-6 million, which means you can afford to pay a 25 man squad £4-5k a week each. Since we all know it doesn't quite work out like that as squads are often bigger, that stretches it out further.

You'll have to offer them higher wages than they are being paid in the Italian and Spanish leagues in order to tempt them to play in the English second tier. You'll also have to be able to pay them competitively - just because they have spent most of their careers in foreign leagues doesn't mean they won't want transfers when they get a sniff of what they can earn over here.

If the loans last season were just due to a late takeover, why continue to do the same thing? A player signs on a free for Granada then immediately transfers on loan to Watford... why is that? Could it be because he wants paying more than Watford can afford to pay and therefore are having his wages subsidised by Granada? A permanent transfer immediately following a free transfer would look too suspicious.

You're all so pathetically naive it's almost hilarious.

 

The real issue is that many clubs have not been run on a recognised business model, they do not normally rely on director PG's for their lending. To spend 80 -85% of income on wages is madness. In particular your club Leicester, having already been in administration, recently had a splurge of spending for average players on daft wages. This was a gamble that failed by not reaching the promised land. Your club is currently still paying the price for this particular episode.

On the victims of administration, some businesses / relationships do not survive to recoup losses. These are your local people who you demean. Unless your club was being run by complete imbeciles at the time of administration somebody must have been aware of the financial consequences of getting the cost/income balance wrong.

Watford have had their fair share of dodgy owners but the supporters are delighted with our new owners.

Udinese is the best run club in Italy
Granada is the best run club in Spain
Watford will be.

 

What is hilarious is that we are watching fantastic flowing football whilst so called 'big clubs' like LUFC & LCFC play hoofball and can hardly get a shot on target.
So funny!!

 

... whilst at the same time our owner's personal fortune rocketed during the same period ... the real price to him therefore being ... the cost of his 'hobby' ...

 

Last time I checked the last few season's accounts our turnover was £11-13m. (for example http://www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/04/championship-clubs-financial-results-2010-11/ ) . Do you think Granada get that much from TV money - Barca and Real get nearly all of it http://monchismen.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/la-liga-tv-revenue-distribution-2011-12/ . Certainly not enough to be subsidising Watford to any degree. And why come to the Championship? If you have been persuaded that within a year you'll be playing in the premiership, that would be quite attractive (even to put yourself in the shop window) ; to live in London is appealing to a lot of people (don't expect the bright lights of Leeds to have the same effect); Zola is a big draw. So before you come on here giving it the big'un, saying how 'pathetically naive' we are, do a bit of research.

Naively yours

HH

 

I think he was referencing Knocky missing that penalty against Watford, but why he said it to you, a Leeds fan, I have no idea...