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Daily Thread Wed 31st July-DAY 2 GLORIOUS GOODWOOD

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by stick, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Tamerlo

    Tamerlo Well-Known Member

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    1.55 Goodwood.
    First Avenue (Nap)


    These races are hard to predict, but the Queen Alexandra Stakes at Ascot offers a good guide. French horse, Shahwardi was well clear on the ratings but couldn't quite peg back Chilberta King- with Seaside Sizzler, First Avenue, and Cloudy Spirit filling the next three places-separated by a length. They meet again on virtually the same terms- with First Avenue and Cloudy Spirit staying on at the finish.
    However, First Avenue needs 'cut' to show his best, and last season's Imperial Cup winner has been racing on fast ground on the flat since that hurdles success.
    At 20/1 (various), he represents a sporting nap and good each way value.
     
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  2. cityhull

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    I fancy Declaration of War to upset the 3 year olds in the Sussex - Mars seems to be a good yardstick on which to base form and I believe back over 1m DoW should be able to mow down the two market leaders in the final furlong with a devastating burst he showed at Ascot
     
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  3. SMP

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    Morpheus is running at 7.30 sandown. Evens
     
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  4. SaveTheHumans

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    Majestic Concorde 11/1 e/w 5:30 Galway. Look's to have been given a chance in this at the weights if he still retains ability to do a job over fences, sure to go close if that remains the case.
     
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  5. OddDog

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    Interesting runner - I backed him when he won at 33/1 a couple of years back (big Christmas handicap at Leopardstown) and was quite sweet on him for the Grand National won by Ballabriggs - I think he was leading at one point but unseated (possibly at the Canal Turn). He could certainly go close at a big price if his jumping holds together.
     
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  6. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    Some support for Cloudy Spirit in the betting. I had a marginal preference for CS as he has retained the same rider as lto where as FA has Jack Mitchel on board for the first time. Both will handle the ground.

    Anyway, I've backed CS so it definitely wont win!
     
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  7. mick the jolly sailor

    mick the jolly sailor Well-Known Member

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    Seems to be a lot of debate and even more selections in the 1.55 Goodwood.
    The one I like, and am on at 25/1 E/W is

    Herostatus. Lightly raced, stayed on well lto at Ponty and got a Mr Fallon in the plate today.

    Good luck chaps....and think Declaration of war might just upset the 3yos today!
     
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  8. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    I hope Much Promise learnt enough from her first outing to play a big part in this race (4.15 Goodwood). She was travelling nicely but then caught a bit flat footed when the heat was turned on. The winner, who had to pull out all the stops to win that day, ran a fair race on Saturday in the Princess Margaret and I'm hoping today is the first step to a nice race in the Autumn over 6 or 7f.

    Hughes rushes off to Sandown for a couple of Royal rides, Musical Comedy and Sea Shanty. Must be worth each way singles and the double.
     
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  9. You See

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    Going to side with discression ew in the last likes the going weight shouldnt be a problem distance is good however he was 3 lengths behind the favorite last year magic city that day was 8.11today he is 9.12 whereas discression was 8.13 and is now 9.2 so the swing in weight should play a massive part I do like a few others but the conditions should scupper there chances
    Also backing morocco and demolition
     
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  10. Bostonbob

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    Buick

    Have a word with yourself you complete arse
     
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  11. Bostonbob

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    I'm still pig sick at that performance from Buick. FFS. Pilgrims. If you backed Excess Knowledge because I'd said he was a jail case i can only apologise. Never in my wildest dreams did I contemplate young William getting himself into trouble three times in the straight and throwing away his chance.

    We live on albeit slightly lighter in the old wallet.
     
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  12. SMP

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    Really dont know why to back in the feature, there is no value at all in the field. Forecast may be the option.
     
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  13. Bluesky9

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    I feel your pain Bob, should have won and not the best ride he will provide a horse this season. You do expect hard luck stories at Goodwood but I think he could have avoided such a thing in such a small field.

    On another note, should anyone feel the big race is simply a match between the Dawn approach and Toranado then BetVictor are offering money back as a free bet on any race at Goodwood if your selection is beaten by the favourite. In Theory, this should be an opportunity for a bet to nothing on Toranado.
     
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    Alternatively i think someone's doing a money back bet if your horse is beaten by richard Hughes - but obviously your one represents better value!
     
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  15. Ron

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    Very disappointed with the result but fantastic race that ended just as I expected.
     
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  16. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    Good shout, Hope some of you got involved... <ok>
     
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  17. L_M

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    Great race for the Sussex Stakes between Toronado and Dawn Approach, but Toronado was the value bet at 11/4, Dawn Approach only beat him by a short head at Royal Ascot but was 10/11! Was obviously priced up on his juvenile form and demolition job in the 2,000 Guineas.
     
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  18. QuarterMoonII

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    Amazing. The Sussex Stakes actually lived up to the pre-race build-up.

    No surprise to those of us that thought the bump at Ascot cost Toronado the race. I noticed that the form assessor in the Racing Post reckoned that it made no difference. Presumably he just lost his money on Dawn Approach and will have revised that opinion.

    The fact that Declaration Of War ran his race and had every chance at the distance does suggest that the pair of three year olds have improved on their Ascot performances so there may still be more to come from both; and the media can now start hyping a rematch.
     
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  19. L_M

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    They will do Quarter and a race I think Toronado will win, it could be in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes at Ascot.
     
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  20. Bluesky9

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    Hughsie is just showing off now....... what a jockey.
     
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