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Is this treatment of a former double player of the year fair?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Cest Advocaat, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. bristolcat

    bristolcat Member

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    I agree with what you are saying in princple but hope pdc isn`t going to use a sledge hammer to crack a nut all the time because he could become unstuck .
    For the record I AM 100%behind PDC
     
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  2. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Thing is mate if we'd been sat in mid table, had nothing to play for, Bardo had given it his all throughout the season and had been in brilliant form I think PDC would have handled it differently.
     
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  3. bristolcat

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    True... I was disgusted as anyone when I saw the photo .I also love the idea`s pdc has for the club . But if the casino incdent is the only reason for pdc to get shot then forgive me for having raised eyebrows for his discision <ok>
     
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  4. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I think it's fair enough not being impressed by it chief! It's a very, very strict decision. I'm all for it but I can understand why people would be apprehensive.
     
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  5. Chaos-Or-Cornelius

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    As others have already highlighted, most of us are probably not privvy to all of the facts. There may have been more going on behind the scenes.

    Being two times player of the season doesn't jusify a drop in professional standards and therefore imho, PDC's hardline is probably justified, providing there are other things that have went on behind the scenes... which I tend to suspect is closer to the truth.
     
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  6. m booth

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    I think it was Bardsley,s attitude to being bollocked by PDC.
    PDC did say that when he spoke to the player the player looked up to the sky and whistled!!!
     
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  7. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Didnt know that mind
     
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  8. m booth

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    I am sure he said that in that long interview he did after Spurs game
     
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  9. bristolcat

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    If thats the case fair enough . I would have wanted chin him if I was pdc .
     
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  10. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    He's made his bed then if thats the case

    Aye mate
     
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  11. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    There can be no doubt at all that your inference of him being a **** was clear as glass pal, so don't come the hurt soldier now.

    I wonder if you thought that when he was the ONLY player with any backbone and balls in that halloween horror show? Or when he was making great tackles and scoring 25 yard net busting goals?

    That he can be moved on and replaced by better is fine. To be treated like a leper for having a night out with mates is **** and it shows what a fickle set of supporters some of our fans can be. Its another case of the manager is always right and whatever he does explained without question.

    I supported MoN but didnt agree with all his decisions and made that clear all along. If MoN had treated PB this way I'd have slaughtered him for being a piss poor man manager too. Bardsley is the longest serving player at the club now and he deserves a far better way of moving him on than this imo. Far from setting an example, I think this is showing how inexperienced PDC is at handling players and if he had been treated like this as a player, he'd have spat him dummy out further than anyone.

    He was no angel as a player himself either but had lenient managers like Redknapp who can handle players far better.
     
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  12. bobgee

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    Di Canio also said he came in "blurry eyed" for training. Suggests to me he was doing exactly as he wished, as others were probably doing under MoN, and he resented his new boss imposing discipline.
    As far as I'm concerned he can go now. He had ONE good season when he was in danger of his contract not being renewed, before and after he was distinctly average. I seem to remember plenty on here saying they weren't bothered if he went a couple of close seasons ago.
    Funny how some players change into world-beaters when we want to get rid.
     
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  13. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I'm delighted I've given you an opportunity to ramble as you do so often like to but the simple fact is I don't think the chap is a ****. Stop trying to place words in my mouth that aren't there. If you want to put something in someones mouth find a woman off the forum. It will most likely go down better.

    You love a good battle on here but I'm not battling you over this as you're simply making up ****e that's not there and it's ridiculous.

    Pick someone else because frankly I have better things to do than argue with a fat, sweaty middle aged man who looks like he runs a kebab shop. Know what I mean KT?
     
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  14. bobgee

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    You're not having ANOTHER pop at Di Canio are you? O'Neill's gone, get over it.
     
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  15. Haggisbag

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    With the amount of money players are paid they are, and should be, expected to be ambassadors for the club at all times. His behaviour in the casino implied that he didn't actually give a **** about the club, as long as he was getting paid. If Paulo doesn't like that, then good on him.
     
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  16. mhu827

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    It was very bad timing, and even worse judgment by Bardo. Fair enough he gave it to charity by all accounts, but we were fighting for our lives at the bottom of the league with a new manager trying to make an impact. He was an easy target and PDC made an example of him..... if it stops other players thinking they can do the same it was well worth it imo.
     
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  17. talcnturnip

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    See where you are coming from Cest but, the words former player of the season are the relevant parts (for me anyway). He wasn't played for most of last season under MON and PDC both saw something that was wrong about him. Maybe getting player of the season went to his head mate I don't know but, his attitude has been terrible he was without a doubt our worst player against Villa and that says something. I'll be honest and say that PDC could have handled it better but, as some say its done now no player is indespensible we hopefully move onto better.
    A good player for us but, he has ran his course with SAFC.
     
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  18. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    I don't have a problem if the manager fancies another full back Talc but its the manner of the moving him on that has concerned me here. Surely there was a better way to move a player on than this? I have a nagging doubt that PDC can operate at this level over a long term and handle these moments with players and discipline and this highlights that inexperience for me. I was more than a little uncomfortable with the public outbursts after this broke and whilst not saying Bardsley is the best (he isn't the worst btw) right back around, the whole thing is not good by all concerned imo. I also think some fans are less than loyal and quick to use obscenities against players that have until that ONE incident been model pros?

    If this is how the day to day problems are sorted out I think there will be problems in the future as there was with Phil Brown when he similarly went very public with his heavy handed approach.
     
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  19. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    I think it may just be a case that Bardsley has already been told he is not in the teams plans for the coming season, and Di Canio has simply not wanted him around in case he is a bad influence on the rest of the squad..
     
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  20. Schwerer Gustav

    Schwerer Gustav Well-Known Member

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    It is a shame about Bardo, however there is no room for sentiment in football.

    Do you know that if one of the youth team fails to make the grade for next season they do not go on the end of season tour, so if it is good enough for the youth team then it is good enough for Bardo.

    There is also the ongoing dispute with the PFU with perhaps the potential for some sort of hearing - would the club then have to fly Bardo back from the tour?
     
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