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Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by woolcombe-folly007, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    15.15 Newmarket - Goodwood Mirage- 9/1 E/W If he runs (ground dependant) he has a great shout of winning and at the very least get placed he has won over the rowley course for John Dunlop last year, and won at the second time of asking for his new yard. Frankie on top again and I expect alot more to come after his very impressive performance lto
     
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  2. SMP

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    I like Maputo ew at 9s in that race folly. I can excuse his last run at ascot and he will be looking to picking up his 2nd win here.
     
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  3. ROTO

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    2.40 Newmarket

    Wild Coco 11/2


    Wild Coco unquestionably comes into this contest with the strongest form to date and if coping with the step back in trip then I think Lady Cecil's unexposed and improving 5 year old can beat the boys and land this Group 2 contest. Unraced as a 2 year old, Wild Coco built upon a highly promising 2nd on debut when winning her 2nd and 3rd starts as a 3 year old (including a Listed contest over this C+D) and despite running poorly on her final 2 starts of 2011 she bounced back with 2 impressive victories in her only starts as a 4 year old when winning a Group 3 and Group 2. On the back of virtually a year off the track, Wild Coco won the Group 3 Lillie Langtry Stakes at the Glorious Goodwood meeting in impressive fashion when running out an impressive 2.75L winner and although the runner up Jehannedarc has been disappointing since then that form is extremely strong. The 3rd home Estimate, who again finished 3rd behind Wild Coco on the latters final start, has won both her starts as a 4 year old including the Ascot Gold Cup whilst the 4th home Hawaafez won her next outing comfortably again in Group 3 company. Wild Coco then took the step up to Group 2 company in her stride when winning authoritatively by over a length in the Park Hill stakes over an extended 14f at Doncaster last September on her final racecourse outing. In a race run at a fairly sedate pace, Tom Queally came with a powerful run inside the final couple of furlongs to win convincingly and she was well on top at the finish in another race that has worked out really well. In addition to the again 3rd Estimate's subsequent exploits, the runner up Hazel Lavery won a Group 3 on her only subsequent start whilst the 4th home Gallipot ran out a ready winner of a Listed contest on her next outing. Wild Coco was clearly a very upwardly mobile Mare last year and if continuing in the same vein of form this year she is definitely the one I feel they all have to beat. Since her last start, she has been picked up for a massive 985,000 GNS in September which says an awful lot about her breeding/racecourse potential and the fact that she hasn't had a run for 301 days doesn't concern me at all given she won on her 4 year old debut after a similar outing in impressive fashion. Fillies don't contest this race very often (2 past 2 renewals only runners in last 10 years) but Crystal Capella demolished the boys by 8L two years ago and I'm hopeful for a similar performance today. The transition of Warren Place into the control of Lady Cecil has been seamless since Sir Henry's passing and the yard are in flying form at the moment. The step back in trip isn't ideal and neither is the potential lack of pace but Wild Coco showed a turn of foot when quickening to win off a sedate gallop at Doncaster last year so she should have enough speed for 10f. A thoroughly progressive mare with only 7 starts under her belt, I am sure the best is yet to come from Wild Coco and I think she could take an awful lot of beating in what doesn't look the strongest Group 2 field ever assembled.
     
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  4. Bluesky9

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    I know this may seem odd backing each way in a five runner field but I think this price is exceptional and although it shouldn't I believe this horse can beat the odds on fav. I would suggest either an each way bet or reverse forcast with the fav to be safe however.

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    4.25 Fantastic Moon 14-1 EW

    This horse has some good form and IS a winner at group 3 level, he was felt good enough to take over to the breeders cup last season as a two year old and although he has not really hit form this year I feel tomorrow will show him at his best. In his last race at Royal Ascot a Group 2 won by Hillstar with Duke of Merengo second, the horse showed he has still got it without doubt. He did not stay 12 furlongs that day but is going with DOM all the way until the two furlong pole at which point he drops back, I am slightly concerned that he is dropped to a mile tomorrow rather than 10f which would be the obvious distance but I think they will make a lot of use of him and he can win well or at least get second which will pay 9-2.
     
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  5. SMP

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    Newmarket

    1.40 Feel Like Danciing 3/1
    2.10 Sir John Hawkins 9/4
    2.40 Grandieur 8/1
    3.15 Maputo evs
    4.25 Montridge 9/1
    5.00 Rebecca Romeo 9/2

    Singles and ew Heinz

    Also a Noseda ew double: Grandeur and Fantastic Moon.
     
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  6. ROTO

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    7.20 Epsom

    Uppercut 11/2


    The shrewd Stuart Kittow's money always interests me and given that he won this contest last year I think Uppercut has an excellent chance of landing this contest in a first time visor. A winner at Glorious Goodwood last year off a 2lb lower mark, Uppercut's form has been a bit topsy turvy since then but he ran an absolute blinder off his current mark of 82 at Ascot when staying on late to finish beaten a little over a length in a better race than this that has worked out well. The winner Rockalong was beaten a head in a Class 2 handicap off a 4lb higher mark whilst the 2nd and 3rd have scored subsequently. Additionally, there is some strong form of those in behind and it was a very good effort. Uppercut's last run can be forgiven as he was badly hampered inside the final couple of furlongs and although getting pushed along at the time Hanagan had yet to go for the whip and given that Uppercut is a horse who needs quite a bit of time to get going he still could have reached the frame. Looking at today's race, it doesn't look like the toughest race around and represents the easiest opportunity Uppercut has faced in a while. In addition to being ideally berthed in stall 1, there seems quite a bit of pace in the race which should be ideal for Uppercut and I expect him to sit in behind the pace on the rail. Although untested at Epsom, he has won at a similarly sharp and undulating track in Goodwood and I think he should have no issue handling the track. With last years winning trainer Stuart Kittow in blinding form at present with his last 2 runners winning, I think Uppercut has an excellent chance of landing this contest in a first time visor with Kittow having a super 29% strike rate at the track.
     
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  7. smokethedeadbadger

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    EW lucky 31 for me:

    2:40 Newmarket - Danadana 9/2
    5:00 Newmarket - Rebecca Romero 9/2
    6:20 Epsom - Megalala SP
    7:00 Leopardstown - Danzerini 13/2
    7:20 Epsom - Yojimbo 7/2
     
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  8. DreverSpur

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    Don't fancy anything myself today but seeing as you keep banging them in regularly Wooly I'm gonna have a couple of quid eway on this Goodwood Mirage 8/1. Good luck!!
     
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  9. woolcombe-folly007

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    Am very confident on this one Drever- If the ground is too quick for him they will take him out (as has happened 2 times before)- so if he runs he will get placed at the very least! and at 2/1 for a place is nice a return :D Good luck!!
     
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  10. DreverSpur

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    First time I have backed a horse on the say-so of someone on here Wooly but the ones you post up seem to run well or win and it's been happening too regularly this last few months for it to be a fluke lol!! Having said that, my £10 eway will probably weigh it down lol!!
     
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  11. Gallop

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    An improved performance is expected from National Poet Warwick 5.15, someone must of tipped it up as the time it has taken me to log in its gone form 6/1 to 9/2. Any way he is expected to be in the first 3 today so 9/2 E.W still possible if you like, good luck.
     
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  12. ChelseaCOE2012

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    Last race at Epsom - School Fees , will certainly pay for any school fees <ok>
     
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  13. woolcombe-folly007

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    It will probably be the last time you do it too <laugh>
     
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  14. woolcombe-folly007

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    If it looses I apologise in advance, but it wont so we will both be happy <party>
     
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  15. Bostonbob

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    I hope it wins for you Wooly.
     
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  16. Archers Road

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    Hard to know what Brown Sugar (2.10 Nwmkt) beat when quickening effortlessly clear in a Salisbury Maiden, but he'd obviously improved a fair bit from his CD 2nd to Jallotta on his debut. Further improvement would not come as a surprise for a stable who've farmed this race in recent years. 8/1 looks generous.
     
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  17. Reebok

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    Afternoon chaps :)

    Are we all going to nominate in the 3-15 Nmkt? If so I'm with Tarikhi !!

    My channel four four are:

    13-40 Feel Like Dancing
    14-10 Figure of Speech
    14-40 Wild Coco I'm pleased you wrote this one up ROTO. I've been eagerly anticipating her reappearance - hope she does herself justice <ok>
    15-15 Tarikh

    That should take a few out of the equation for you <laugh>
     
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  18. Ron

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    I nominated mine last night

    Probably should have kept quiet.
     
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  19. Bostonbob

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    I like Feel Like Dancing in the first race at 7/2. Gosden wins this every year. This is improving. The drop in distance is okay. I'm fairly confident.
     
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  20. Ron

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    Just to stay interested I'll go Testudo ew
     
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