This is a recent post on waccoe. Hope it's ok to use but sums up my feelings to a tee "we will NEVER improve and break this cycle by selling our best players! NEVER NEVER NEVER I see the talk and the appeasement for his inevitable late August sale has started already! Jesus, WHEN will we learn? Do we even deserve to succeed when some of our fans are so submissive and meek that we have put up with such a travesty of ownership policy for nigh on a decade with nary a whimper of defiance It's pathetic. We don't deserve success while we even think such ownership practice is acceptable. Another season shaping up to go straight down the pan. Byram; NOT FOR SALE" That's it in a nutshell, our owners are bankers. It's up to them to raise finance to move us forward and not by selling our best. Let McD do his job and GFH you guys **** off and do yours
Great post, totally agree, we should keep him, the bankers get on with raising finance, allowing McD to do his.
Well, McD has already publicly stated Byram is going nowhere ... well, that is until someone comes along and puts a big fat cheque on the table. That, unfortunately, is the reality of a badly run club in the Championship.
Well GFHC will go up in my estimation if they manage not to cash in on Byram and he stays the season with us.
What happens though if Byram does stay another season? I don't quite understand whether other fans realise the position we are in and realise how to make the most of it, because thats what we need to do, make the most of it which can still work except for the fact that negativity has spread through the fans like a virus and now they find it almost impossible to view anything with the slightest amount of positivity. If we sell Byram this summer we could get anywhere between 5-7m imo. Now if that money is then reinvested we are then capable of signing top quality players (maybe not of the same age and potential as Byram) and can actually give it a real push for promotion. We have a good manager who has shown in the past how successful he can be in the transfer market even in poor conditions. Or we can not sell Byram and only sign very few players of average quality. Lets face it a player like Byram isn't going to get you promotion single handed. And I'm surprised no one else has even considered he won't play as well next season or even the fact that we may need to sell him next summer when he is a year older and has a year less left on his contract therefore worth less money. I'm not saying we should definitely sell him but if an offer came in that was a decent amount you'd have to consider those options and McD will have to think whether the squad would be capable if that money was reinvested but I think it'd be hard to come to the decision of keeping him.
So yore saying once offers are acceptable, it'll be ok to keep selling our best players? That's not acceptable to me and never will be. Actually makes supporting Leeds completely pointless
why? you do what is best for the club. Keeping a player just to appease fans despite the fact it will help the club achieve its goals imo is stupid. I'm not saying sell every player that we get a bid for, but you always need to consider the pros and cons of deals and there are a lot of pros to this deal imo. I didn't agree with either the Howson or Snoddy sales but I would certainly agree to getting 5-7m for a player like Byram.
I've actually changed my stance on this and assuming for argument purposes the money was reinvested in the team, I would sell Byram, even if we got say £4M for him. McDermott could improve the side 100% with that amount of money, it's a no brainer really. It's a pity we didnt snap up Lichaj on a freebie as he would've been an ideal replacement. We need to make sure this would be the last ever player sold purely for the sake of raising finance though.
Following the Wall again I see Phil. John Berylson said during the season before Moro's sale to Norwich that we no longer need to sell purely for financial reasons and that from now on it'll only for footballing reasons if it's in the club's interest for the good of it.
Unfortunately it comes with the territory of being a championship side. It is possible to keep them against their wishes, but I'd rather have players who actually want to be here. The only part that gets to me is that we never seem to make a substantial effort to keep them, or sort their contracts out early. That and the fact we never bloody reinvest the money in the squad. But I disagree that selling our best players makes supporting Leeds completely pointless, it happens to other championship/L1/L2 sides every year. If we sold Byram for £6m and signed Murphy/Rowe/Hunt/whoever else McDermott wants and won promotion, nobody would be complaining! I'd hate to see Byram go but IF (and it is a big if) the money was reinvested properly, it could turn out quite well. I don't want to see our best players go every season, but sometimes it does make sense.
Selling our best every season will never get us promoted. Believe whatever you like though. As I said, let GFH do their job and raise the mythical 4 million through their banker contacts and let McD build on the handful of good players we already have
I do agree with you, but McDermott, as he said, lost Sigurdsson at Reading, carried on, used the money to build another squad and got them to the play off final. Then he lost Matt Mills and Shane Long, his two best players, and used the money to build another side that got promoted. Then they got to the premiership and into a position where they didn't have to sell their best players. While we're a championship side, we will always be susceptible to our better players leaving, that comes with the territory and the fact there is absolutely no loyalty in football. Even the scum lost Ronaldo, it happens! It's what we do with the money that matters.
Difference is scum didnt sell all their best players, we did. Several said in January selling becchio would be a positive thing with 3m hopefully reinvested in squad. Just look at how that was handled
We are a championship club though, that's the difference. We should fight to keep our better players, but it's inevitable that they'll attract interest and we may lose them. As for the Becchio saga, well, we should've demanded cash and not accepted Morison. If we had reinvested in a better replacement, it may not have looked like such terrible business. Unfortunately, that depends on GFH actually reinvesting in the squad, which they may or may not do...
If they don't, they run the risk of losing what little good will or support they have left. It's been said time and again this transfer window will be the acid test. Our squad will have to be substantially stronger when window shuts
And how has that worked out for you? Almost League One this past season - down to the last 10 minutes of the season!
