Mboyo

Don't waste your breath Tommy. I'd have more faith in a chimp understanding your point.

 

Why/how would yoghurt be wearing a jumper?

 

Are you telling me I've been wasting my time debating this with somebody who ISN'T a chimp? I need to go lie down...

 

Liberal bollocks again!

 

Gang rape isn't always a bad thing. Some people deserve it.

 

I don't think you've realised that that word doesn't mean what you think it means. You aren't actually justifying your response, you're backed into a corner and I'm poking you with a stick. A stick that has the words 'you have no idea what I'm talking about do you?' carved into it with intricate lettering, with a lovely gloss finish throughout. And by being poked by said stick, you're proving to everybody what a ****ing moron you actually are.

I hear 9 out of 10 people enjoy it...

 

Thing is Tommy, if something like this happened to your daughter..... You would not get over it.... And you would not be singing his name at the KC Stadium either... Unless you was a bit sick in the head...

Which I don't believe you are .

Hopefully it doesn't happen..

 

Perhaps I would see it differently, as I said in a previous post, I shape my opinions on my own experiences, so I guess that would change things and you're right, I'd be ****ing livid. However, as that hasn't happened to me, I stand by my statements.

 

I think there is a large difference between allowing someone to move on from a crime committed as a child compared to committed once a full blown man.

 

You statements are a classic example of all thats wrong with this country. Down to people like you we have a generation of people who will not accept responsibility for their own actions and blame everything and everyone else for what they do. No I won't let rapists/child murderers etc move on with their lives, No I won't accept that Myobo only made a mistake due to his circumstances and age at the time of the crime, No I refuse to let people like you tell me I'm wrong for not wanting a rapist to play in a City shirt.

 

Jon Venables......

 

I don´t think anybody is justifying what Mboyo did it was clearly unacceptable regardless of age or his background. That though should not mean that we should not sign him. He made the biggest mistake of his life at 16 possibly even younger. 16 year olds make mistakes admittedly not usually as big as this. It is now 10 years later and as far as I know he has led a clean and blameless life since. People talk about role models. Isn´t somebody who made such a big mistake but took his punishment and turned his life around a good role model for all the young people of Hull who maybe dabbling in drugs or crime or hanging around in gangs? Doesn´t it say to those people with a self discipline you can do it too? We expect our players to be role models but how can somebody who came through the ranks of Man U and the privilidges that go with it talk with feeling or be able to understand what our young people are going through? Somebody who has been there can. It is easy to give up on young people and throw them aside for one mistake. Shortly we will lose Nelson Mandela another fine example once a terrorist but somebody who in later life forgave those who had perscuted him and his race and as a result South Africa became a better place we should not forget what he taughts us. Closer to home our Queen was able to set us a good example and shake the hands of a man who had the blood or her uncle on his. Politicians of all parties talk about a just and tolerant society juding by some of the comments on here they have a hell of a job on their hands if people cannot forgive and allow people who have strayed at such a young age a second chance.

 

Haven't read every single posting on this thread as I think it would depress me to read some of the comments. I'm sorry but I am in general and overall agreement with the base point Tommytiger made at the start of the thread.
At some point we do have to start having criminals coming back into society - unless we go down the death penalty route (which some on here might find a good idea), and the issue is where do we cross the line. Pop stars, TV stars and sports stars are not like normal members of society as their job is obviously much different to the rest of us - and any crime they do is magnified in how people react to it by the press coverage. One club gave Mboyo a second change (whether that is termed as bleeding heart liberals gone too far by some) and some club down south gave Luke McCormick (killed 2 young boys while drunk driving) a second chance. The question I might raise is which of those footballers committed the worst crime - which is not to say that Mboyo is not a character who I particularly like but if we going to have a moral stance on signings, then should it not be something which is applied at all clubs and is the new policy "one crime and you lose any chance of playing professional football again"

 

No, down to people like me we have The Internet, The Hubble Space Telescope and probably most importantly of all, those little chocolate covered peanuts you get from the petrol station.

Again, you've been blinded by your own idiocy. People can't move on if they don't accept the mistakes they've made, otherwise they'd just be living in denial their whole lives (like Michael Jackson). I'm saying that people who can accept that what they've done is wrong are the people who are best suited to starting over. It's a bit of an over-exaggeration that everybody under 25 thinks they are care free and outside of their of responsibility. There are 10 year old kids out there who know that if they do something, they're responsible for the consequences.

You need to understand the whole picture, instead of being so black and white over everything. Instead of saying yes or no, question why you are making the choice. If you see something on the news, don't just take it as fact, ask the question of why it happened? Analyse what you are told and form it into your own opinion, instead of being told something is the way it is because that's that. You see all the riots that are happening across the world, in Brazil, Egypt, the UK; do you ever wonder why they're happening and try and satisfy your curiosity, or do you just see them and say "That's bad", like a red top reading luddite? If you don't ask the questions, you'll never learn anything and your stance on society will become outdated and pointless.

 

Like Mboyo or Jodie Marsh

 

One was an accident, which although had a far worse outcome with the deaths, was not intentional, and one was a deliberate act

 

Very much agree with Mr Suit / Booted.

Mboyo may be sorry, he may be a good guy now. I don't give a ****.

Rape
Women beating
Beating of old people

Some things won't be forgiven by some of us.

Would not want him here for free.

Can just imagine every game , the abuse thrown at the club from rival fans.

Ffs gang rape.... ****ing terrible.

My last comment on the subject anyway.

I'm off out for a crab sandwich on sea front.

It won't happen .

I don't want the Yorkshire ripper in Goal either no matter if he is better then Gordon Banks.

 

But getting into a car while drunk is a deliberate act.