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Wednesday 19th June Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by ROTO, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. Steveo77

    Steveo77 Well-Known Member

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    2.30 I think the value lies with MUSIC MASTER 14/1 and PARLIAMENT SQUARE 22/1 each way. Music Master was 2nd in a top class listed race last month and Parliament Square has Royal Ascot form finishing 5th in the Windsor Castle last year. With the booking of Ryan Moore and Aidan O'Brien in form this horse surely is over priced.

    3.05 the head says Duntle, the heart says Chigun and yet DANK maybe the best of the lot. A progressive horse and Ryan Moore booked to ride. I think he might just get up to beat Duntle in a close finish.

    3.45 there doesnt appear to be any confidence in the betting amongst any of the leading contenders. I wouldn't be surprised to see Camelot back in the winners enclosure though as he will probably have come on for his run at the Curragh.

    4.25 I am going to do a few each way. The David O'Meara horse TWO FOR TWO will run a big race though I think.

    stick a pin in for the last 2 races of the day
     
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  2. PNkt

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    I'm being told the ground has come right for Tom Dascombe's filly QUATUOR in the Queen Mary. It was too soft for her last time out at York.
     
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  3. redcgull

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    So my attempts to hit a winner today comes from...

    2.30 - Garswood, 6/1
    3.05 - Sarkiyla, 7/1
    3.45 - The Fugue, 7/1
    4.25 - Educate, 14/1
    5.00 - Quatour, 20/1
    5.35 - Mango Diva, 7/1

    Lets see how these donkeys get on then...<ok> <laugh>
     
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  4. Ekbalco99

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    Hi Princess - hope that you are well ! I saw Quator win the first at Chester on a very wet / windy Ladies Day - from pillar to post - never headed ... it was good / soft that day .. lets hope he can turn it around from his last run !

    Thanks for the e/w info ... much appreciated ..
     
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  5. redcgull

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    Thats nice to know as i also picked her...<cheers> <ok>
     
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  6. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    All the Group races are impossible, picking the winner from a 30 horse charge up the straight mile has to be easier than trying to sort out whether the PoW is a two horse race (I don't think it is) .

    Royal Hunt Cup then; The high draws have had it in the past, so a line goes through everything drawn 1-19. The stats suggest you want something that's been a winner in one of its last 3 runs. 4 and 5 year olds have the best record in recent years, and you can forget anything aged 7 or over (now watch Prince Of Johanne win it for the second time). Horses trained by James Fanshawe have a great record, but he doesn't have a runner this year. Horses ridden by LianFranco Dettori are always worthy of attention.

    I'm now down to Two For Two, Burke's Rock and Spa Dancer. That's my 3 against the field, with the David O'Meara runner being the main bet based on current trainer form.

    Back to Group races. Sentiment has in my experience been as effective a tool as intellect when it comes to picking winners, so why wouldn't I back Chigun to make Henry C look down and smile on the newly re-christened Duke Of Cambridge Stakes?
     
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  7. ROTO

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    2.30 Ascot

    Jammy Guest 66/1


    Might be a bit nuts here but George Margason's praise about his 3 year old is still ringing in my ear when he stated that his very useful Excellent Guest (rated 98) acts as Jammy Guest's lead horse at home and I think the result of his foray into Listed Company on his last start is much better than the bare result. Having made a satisfactory debut back in April, Jammy Guest shaded his maiden tag at the 2nd time of asking when scoring easily by over 2L last month over 7f at Lingfield when quickening clear nicely after making all and although the form of that success wouldn't put him in with much of a chance here he was an impressive victor. 8 days later he was stepped into a Listed race at Newmarket over 10f and although ultimately beaten 7L I think his performance was much better than this and I think he just didn't stay. Again attempting to make all, Jammy Guest was travelling like the best horse in the race on the bridle with about 2.5f to race with the rest of the field at it in behind him but when Seb Sanders asked him for an effort at the 2f pole he found nothing and ultimately finished a well beaten 3rd. I did, however, think he certainly looked to be a horse with a definite future and although a massive step up on what he has shown to date I don't think its impossible as he should relish the step back to 7f. Tom Queally takes over in the saddle today and although he could very well be nowhere near good enough to win this 66/1 is reflective in that price and I'm willing to have a small each way stakes in the hope he takes a huge step forward today.
     
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  8. DreverSpur

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    Garswood 11/2 in the first for me
     
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  9. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    I have a feeling that the Prince of Wales is not very strong this year. I always liked the way Princess measured the form of Frankel last year in respect of horses beaten and I have a feeling should the same formula be applied this renewal would seem quite poor.

    Al Kazeem could of course be improving and a genuine group 1 horse but in this grade so far he has only beaten Camelot who himself seems to have been exposed quite a bit in contrast to the extreme hype of last year. I feel in a poor Group 1 that MAXIOS is the bet and can take advantage of the lack of quality.
     
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  10. Bluesky9

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    credit where it's due Joseph O Brian has ridden two very good races at Ascot so far in Declaration or War and this winner. Hughes must be hurting having got two horse to the front in the last half furlong only to be denied by a horse getting back up.
     
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  11. TC (Lovely Geezer)

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    GB 1 Ireland 5
     
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  12. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    I've backed Camelot. Bad news for anyone else that has :bandit:

    I've also taken a seemingly daft EW punt on dancewiththedevil in the 3.05 but surely the three horses on short(ish) odds in that race will get broken up.
     
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  13. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    A repeat of the Dhalia Stakes 1-2-3? I can't see Thistle Bird out of the places today
     
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  14. Ron

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    And "Ronnie" wins the opener.
     
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  15. Reebok

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    Definitely not the TWO Ronnies <laugh>

    I'm steaming about that great run from Ladys First, who couldn't do that on Saturday when I had my nuts on the line <steam>

    Don't know what everyone else is doing but I'm sitting in my living room, melting in the heat. Cold beer helps though <ok>

    Maybe I should turn off the central heating as well <laugh>

    Maxios available at 6-1 with 365 and Hills ATM
     
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  16. NassauBoard

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    Reebs I bet you are sat in your pants watching the racing. Good on you if true!!
     
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  17. Archers Road

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    Something I haven't had the chance to shout in a while..."Cmon Frankiiiieee!!!"
     
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  18. GGW

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    This money for Camelot is only coming from one place!!
     
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  19. Steveo77

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    didn't expect Camelot to start as favourite though.
     
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  20. Reebok

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    Alas no :) I'm loading up the motorhome in-between races, which involves walking past 4 other houses, and while they are mainly jog pants wearing chavs, I don't quite have the self confidence to walk about in me undercrackers :D
     
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