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O/T Stephen Fry attempted suicide!

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by canary-dave, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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  2. Redandwhite12044

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    As some,one who works with ppl with mental health issues its an all to familiar story of ppl attempting to take there own life. The horrible thing is a lot of the time its hard to spot until its to late. The sad fact is if someone wants to take there own life they will find a way. Bi polar is such a strange illness because at times you can be hyper and ready to take on the world then other times crippled by depression.
    I think what it does prove is like all mental illnesses it is something anybody can get no matter who you are.
    The problem still remains of the stigma of mental illness and thats something that wont change anytime soon unfortunately
     
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  3. Goldeneye175

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    The Myth that all celebrities are happy and comfortable with their fame is sadly a deeply unfounded one. Money doesn't buy happiness after all!
     
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  4. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, but what is a real eye opener for me is, he's such an intelligent man, but he's not able to help himself! I find that very sad!
     
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  5. KIO

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    Some people should count their blessings and realise what a privileged card the Good Lord has dealt them. When I think of all the **** life has thrown at me and yet I've still managed to pull through, these weak minded lily livered twats should pull themselves together and be grateful that God has given them a life at all. I know I'll probably get lambasted for that comment but some people should just ****ing man up and get on with life. I see people everyday complaining and worrying about stupid things that they have no control over when there are others who have real problems but they just get on with it. Sorry, no sympathy here.
     
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  6. Rubik's Tube

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    You have pretty much defined mental illness there. Worrying about real problems and facing up to them as best you can is common sense; worrying about (and being crippled by) stupid things that you have no control over is mental illness. That is why it is classed as a health problem.
     
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  7. Redandwhite12044

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    Mental illness is as much biological as well of psychological so the term just man up is bloody stupid.
    You would tell some one with cancer to man up and walk it off would you.
    The problem is ppl think its something you can control which it is not
     
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  8. Dangerous Marsupial

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    As a person who is studying Biology I think you have misunderstood what mental illness is. The problem in the case of bi-polar is that it is your biology of your body is wired-up in such a way that you will experience these mood swings. The sufferer isn't choosing to feel this way, it is simply the chemical environment of they body producing that effect. When people drink too much alcohol they behave in ways they wouldn't normally because alcohol is affecting the chemistry of their nervous system and the same principle applies here.

    A problem many people have is the assumption that there is a 'special force' that defines what is living and what is known. Maybe there is, I don't know but everything you feel is simply the result of a very complex set of chemicals (I.E your body) responding to more chemicals. It might not sound such a romantic concept but that is how life works.

    Sorry KIO, but your seem to have missed the point of mental illness. It is impossible for us to imagine what it would actually feel like to be afflicted with such a mental disorder unless you yourself had it.
     
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  9. woodbine

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    Some people just don't understand mental illness or depression. It's not something you can just ''Man Up'' Or ''Get over it''.
     
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  10. KIO

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    What a stupid, ignorant thing to say. Cancer is biological that you have no control over, I speak as someone who has lost his mother to this bastard of a disease and I therefore take great offence. There are so many people on this planet young and old who suffer everyday, many not knowing where their next meal is coming from, some people need a bloody good slap and told to swap places with them, then they would be able to feel sorry for themselves !
     
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    Sorry about your mother, but I think you're also being a bit ignorant about mental health issues, it's not something you choice to do or can control.
     
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    I apologise for my use of cancer as a comparsion and I didnt mean to cause offence to anyone.
    What I was trying to point out was that with a illness like bi polar is no more able to be controlled as any physical illness.
    Again I apologise for the flippancy of my comment as I wont wish any illness on anyone
     
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  13. canary-dave

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    Kio I'm sorry but you are way out of order here, it's because people have this attitude to mental ilness that there is still such a stigma attached to it! I hope for your sake that nobody in your family is struck by such an illness!
     
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    Well said,no sympathy here either.
     
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    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    Why am I not surprised?

    <doh>
     
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  16. danary

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    Spot on.
     
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  17. danary

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    You have a history of small mindedness so it is hardly surprising.
     
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  18. ncfcpaul

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    Perhaps its down to the cocaine he shoved up his nose nobodys mentioned that,so again no sympathy here.
     
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  19. Dangerous Marsupial

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    I really cannot comprehend how anybody could just say they have no sympathy for people who suffer from mental health illnesses. If that is how you truly feel then that is fair enough but it is then hypocritical in the extreme to offer sympathy to anybody afflicted with any other ailment whatsoever. Mental health illnesses are not a voluntary choice - they arise from much the same mechanism as any other disease anybody could possibly mention - environmental/and or genetic factors.

    I can only presume that it is because they affect the nervous system that people assume they are not proper diseases, but I can assure you they are: in fact I could name a great deal of mental disorders that arise from being infected with a virus/bacteria/other pathogen, and then it is the person's fault they are ill? Would you tell a African child with sleeping sickness to get over it and appreciate what God gave him?
     
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  20. ncfcpaul

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    Thankyou for your comment adds nicely to the debate.
     
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