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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by johnsonsbaby, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    It would be nice if they said/did something.

    Our PR has been criminal over the past few years - particularly with the handling of the race affair.

    Clubs feels rudderless atm.
     
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  2. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    FSG know all about PR, that's why they didn't say anything. Notice how they protected their OWN reputation throughout the Suarez affair? The only thing people say about Dalglish now is that he was sacked because of his handling of the Suarez stuff. Even though it was FSG's fault in the first place for making him have to defend Suarez on his own and not supporting him. They've managed to come out of the whole thing smelling of roses, despite their inaction being the root cause of our PR being so poor and ineffective after the Suarez affair.
     
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  3. Sharpe*

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    Yeah I agree Lucas.

    I will always give them credit because they helped us out when we were on our knees, but since then they have been largely poor.
     
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  4. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Crazy thought... No calling black people negrito. No biting people on the arm. No problem. <ok>
     
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  5. PR should be like a referee, there but unnoticed <ok>
     
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  6. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    The thing is though if Kenny & Brendan had spent their money a little more wisely then people would be hailing FSG as brilliant owners. As no one ultimately cares what owners are doing if the club is succesful on the pitch. Same with Mike Ashley last season, Newcastle fans were saying he was a good owner who didn't throw cash away needlessly, now he's back to being a tight arse that doesn't spend, despite not doing anything different to last season.

    You're just being unreasonable now <whistle>
     
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  7. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Look, I'll put it cynically in marketing terms about where we position ourselves. Football now is like music in the seventies - sterile, bland, corporate and in a symbiotic love-in with politically-controlled, manipulating media and press. We are the punks who can break this torpor. We can't compete with it, and I for one would hate us to. The next FA kangaroo court we're pulled up in front of - and we all know the press will force their compliant little puppets at lancaster gate into another one against us soon; it sells papers! - we should just send a transcript of Rooney's defence for his sending-off against Montenegro as our "role model". After we've puked on it. Someone utterly needs to break this bullshit mode.

    And the press? FFS, after we've had Leveson what has changed? NOTHING! They still dictate life in this country like we're in some Orwellian/Bradbury-like novel. **** them, and let them know we **** them too. Ignore them and laugh as they and their faithful readership get more and more up their own arseholes.

    The alternative is to play this ghastly, publicity-conscious, PR corporate franchise, or more aptly scamchise. If we set ourselves away from the herd we will certainly be the most hated club in the country and the media's continual whipping-boys (plus-ca-change?), but we'll also be the shinning beacon worldwide for all those FOOTBALL fans sick of this media-hyped dogshit. And we'll scare the **** out of the FA into the bargain.

    But this won't happen, will it? We'll plod on hoping that eventually the FA and the English press will move onto someone else. They won't though.
     
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  8. Zingy

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  9. Tobes

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    Your premise that the FA & media are somehow victimising Liverpool is laughable mate.
     
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  10. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    As a citizen of Liverpool I know how the press has treated the city in it's reporting generally. I read the comments section a while ago on an article about media bias against Liverpool and one respondent said that having left London for a job in Liverpool he could 'confirm' that the city is like no other - claiming that in every garage in the city you have to pay before filling up. Really,... where are these garages in my city as I've never had to pay before I filled up. And that's just one example that people read and believe. Some are still stuck in the 'self-pity city' mode which we moved on from a few decades ago. It's not much of a leap to encompass the city's football teams into that same vein when reporting. Everton largely get away with it because they don't have as big a reputation, but our desire to protect and support our own still runs through the club which is why semi-literates like Aldo and the more well balanced like Barnes wade in when the controversies arise. It's part of the club's culture. I'd stop short at saying they have it in for us because without Suarezgate they'd struggle to come up with something that would sell copies.

    We're not English, we're Scouse :smile:
     
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  11. Toela65

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    The media re only anti_LFC because it sells papers and guarantees clicks, same with Chelsea as they are probably the only Club as unpopular with neutral fans as us. They use Utd in a similar way as it guarantees the same attention and income, they just feat them and their employees a lot more so are a a little cleverer to avoid getting into the **** with them.

    They will say and do whatever will make them money, always will. If we done a Bradford and in 5 years time was in L2 and lost most of our fans, popularity and relevance, we'd hardly feature in the football media. Also if we weren't so unpopular amongst other fans, who like to read negative things about LFC, particularly enjoying our current fall from grace, the clicks would stop also and so would the articles. No-one from any club can deny that LFC is massively unpopular amongst other fans. Just spend an hour on others teams forums for proof of that!

    The media doesn't have an "anti-LFC agenda", they have a pro-making money directive as a private, for profit, company.

    Its a shame we kick off about it so much as just like dogs, if it was just ignored, it would soon get stop and disappear.
     
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  12. Toela65

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    Yes. The fact that Liverpool is very unpopular and drowning in inaccurate stereotypes down South and with the Southern media (and with Southern Journalists who came of age in life and journalisticly during Thatcherism and everything antiLiverpool that went with that) also plays a significant factor too.

    Its actually a quite complex, sociological diktat that explains the way Liverpool and its Football Club are presneted and reported on in the media.
     
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  13. Swarbs

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    Madness. Just like no kicking fans in the chest and no forgetting to take a drugs test = no problem.

    I think you could be on to something there <ok>

    Tho' not sure I agree with DR's comment about Utd's great PR. It was a great bit of PR for the club to suspend Cantona for four months after his incident. Didn't seem to work out all that well when the FA arbitrarily doubled the punishment. Then everyone wonders why no club ever punishes their own player for PR reasons any more...
     
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