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Mosques getting attacked around country O/T

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Teessidemackem, May 22, 2013.

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  1. Poyets outburst

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    Lived in London all my life and you are the first person I've heard of to say this , London is a joke not safe at all carnt wait to get my family away from here . As for what happened to the solider my thoughts are with his family and friends r.i.p
     
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    Dont blame you mate, London is a ****ing horrible place.

    I know a couple of lads up here who used to live down there, they hated it too.
     
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  3. BoriniSaysSshhhh

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    I think that the reality of the situation is that the muslim mosques were not being attacked up and down the country. The reason being is that many people are becoming wise to the true agenda. Many people are no longer accepting the picture movie and as a result, are beginning to stand together.

    The irony of this situation is that more people will be brought together.
     
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  4. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    A) Stephen Lawrence was not a drug dealer ... He was a 6th form student
    B) Not all Muslims are to blame for 2 Muslims being murderous thugs.
    C) Do you blame all Catholics for the murders committed by the IRA ?
    D) Do you blame all Christians for the murders committed by the yorkshire ripper who said god told him to do it?
    E) Do you blame all those who live in sunderland for the ****wit who pretended to be the yorkshire ripper on the infamous tape which meant the police were sidetracked and another 2 women were murdered as a result?
    F) Do you mean to come across as a **** ?

    Presumably you think all white men are child abusers or rapists after reading about jimmy Saville , Stuart hall, max Clifford, jimmy tarbuck , Jim Davidson, the 2 men off coronation street, rolf harris, etc. Or do you just save your pig ignorant **** views for Muslims?

    Every Muslim leader, along with every other British Muslim has said they don't support murders and have been appalled by this horrific incident.
    I live in woolwich and the last thing we need is racist ****s blaming all of us for something that we had **** all to do with. I have children, they go to a local school, i work in a local school ... We are every much part of the community as any one else...
     
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  5. CyprusMackem

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    Very well said mate.
    You say your Muslim? I dont give a fook tbh. I did 22 years in HM Forces. Do I hate all Muslims because of yesterday? Do I ****. I hate the two idiots and hope they suffer for the rest of their lives.
    This had nothing to do with religion. It's just an excuse to cause trouble.
     
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  6. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Thankfully the world is filled with people like you mate...it is what i always tell my daughters...good people are everywhere and we out number the ****s ... Be lucky <ok>
     
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  7. antipodean exile

    antipodean exile Well-Known Member

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    Its not a bowl of cherries over here either - was working in Newcastle (NSW) couple of hours north of Sydney when out of a shopping centre car park come two gangs one chasing the other they were Aborigines and Somalis both were tooled up with axes and one had a sabre - I thought wtf - this country mirrors the Uk in so many ways it just takes 10 years longer to feel uneasy.
     
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  8. CyprusMackem

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    Don't know about anyone else but I'm far more worried about what the EDL will get out of this. Anything that empowers them is very troublesome and will only lead to grief.
     
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  9. MackemNomad

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    Half of us will attack, half of us will defend. No right or wrong in some people's eyes.. What we can say for definite is that a young man's body lies dead on the street.
     
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  10. FTM Dave

    FTM Dave Well-Known Member

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    This a is a great post mate.

    Let the two bastards who did it be tried and the key thrown away. But it's totally wrong to blame a whole race/community/religion.
     
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  11. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Brilliant. Just brilliant.
     
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  12. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    Imagine you are walking down the streeet and ...

    - A group of around 6-to-8 Muslims/Arabs/North Africans in Islamic garb are walking towards you, OR

    - A group of 6-to-8 white tattooed skinhead thugs, sporting racist/EDL garb are walking towards you ...

    ... I wonder which of these would people consider more intimidating?
     
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  13. Cruyff's Turn

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    All religions should be separated from power.If a religion confines itself to it's members going to a place of worship and offering praise to a higher power that doesn't exist,apart from in the imagination of it's members then fine.The next step up is the Church of England and Catholicism where the church actively seeks to control others in addition to it's members via the running of schools and the dictation of social policy.At the top we have certain religions that ostracise others for not being members and actively seek to harm those people because of their non belief.I can only think of one in that category offhand,but there may be others.

    I got slagged off on the Norwich board for raising the Nazis but thinking about it they actually fit that third category quite well.
     
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    Superb post <applause>
     
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  15. Cest Advocaat

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    Well said and agreed with. I reckon every sane minded and rational person will support this.

    However, to simply dismiss the threat that does exist from sections of the muslim community is naive in the least. The difference with what you say is that no-one is openly making protests, voicing their support, or posting their support for any of the extremist views of the ones you mention above but there ARE muslims marching on our streets supporting this kind of action and preachers that encourage more of it. There are no placard waving *****philes marching for the right to abuse kids, or Christians (or any other religion to be honest) that are marching to say British people should burn in hell?

    Of course all Muslims are not violent terrorists and to suggest so is ridiculous but the muslim communities here in the UK have to start to self police and assist in rooting out the rogue elements that are carrying out these atrocities in their name. Failure to do so will, I am afraid to say, result in yet more hatred and reprisals from equally misguided indigenous fringe elements of the UK population. Do i want to see Mosques burned or muslim communities attacked? Of course I don't and neither do the majority or law abiding citizens but there is a tinderbox atmosphere now in the UK and it won't take much to ignite this whole thing into full scale problem imo.


    I really fear where all this may be heading and unless the British Govt get a grip on this it will spiral out of control and make no mistake, we will all be the worse for that ladies and gentlemen. Both muslims and the rest of the UK population together.
     
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    I am the Tory Party's Worst Nightmare. I am a White, Tax-Paying, Englishman. I am hard working and I work long hours to earn a living.
    I believe the money I make belongs to me and not to some governmental functionary, to share with others who don't work!
    I think owning a home doesn't make you a capitalist; it makes you... smart! I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything. Get over it. Join in with the majority!

    I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you should do it in English. I believe there should be no other language option.

    I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to.

    My heroes are fellow Brits like Freddy Flintoff and Winston Churchill and I know I've missed a few thousand!!!!!

    I don't hate the rich. What I hate is the way they always manage to avoid paying proper taxes. I don't pity the poor, I just hate the way they are always moaning that they are hard done by!!
    I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time watching or arguing about it.

    I believe if you don't like the way things are here, go back to where you came from and change your own country!

    This is ENGLAND.....We like it the way it is and even more so THE WAY IT WAS!...so stop trying to change it to look like some other socialist country! If you were born or legally migrated here and don't like it... you are free to move to any Socialist country that will have you. I believe it is time to really clean house, starting with the House of Commons, the seat of our biggest problems.

    I want to know where the "Do Gooders" get their money from, and why are they always part of the problem and not the solution?
    Can I get a "hear hear" on that one?

    I also think the Old Bill have the right to pull you over if you're breaking the law, regardless of what race, colour or creed you are. And, no, I don't mind having my face shown on my driving licence. I think it's good....

    I dislike those people trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause....Get a job and support yourself and your family!

    I believe 'illegal' is illegal no matter what the lawyers think!

    I believe the Union Jack flag should be allowed to be flown anywhere in the United Kingdom !

    If this makes me a BAD Brit, then yes, I'm a BAD Brit. If you are a BAD Brit too, please forward this to everyone you know....

    We want our country back! My Country.....

    I hope this offends all illegal aliens.

    My great, great grandfather watched as his friends died in the Boer War. My grandfather watched and bled as his friends died in World Wars 1&2. I watched as my friends died in Sierra Leone Bosnia, & Desert Storm. Our sons and daughters watched & bled as their friends died in Afghanistan and Iraq . None of them died for the Afghanistan and Iraq Flag. Every Briton died for the British flag.

    At one school, foreign students raised a Middle East flag on a school flag pole. British students took it down. Guess who was expelled...the students who took it down.

    West London high school students were sent home, because they wore T-shirts with the Union Jack flag printed on them.

    What is going on?? What idiots do we have in authority?? Enough is enough.

    This message needs to be viewed by every Brit; and every Briton needs to stand up for Britain . We've bent over to appease the Brit-haters long enough. I'm taking a stand.

    I'm standing up because of the millions who died fighting in wars for this country, and for the British flag.

    And shame on anyone who tries to make this a racist message. IT IS NOT !

    Britons, stop giving away Your RIGHTS !

    THIS IS OUR COUNTRY !

    This statement DOES NOT mean I'm against immigration !

    YOU ARE WELCOME HERE, IN MY COUNTRY, welcome to come legally:

    1. Get a sponsor !
    2. Learn the LANGUAGE, as immigrants have in the past!
    3. Live by OUR rules ! Dress as we Britons Do
    4. Get a job !
    5. Pay YOUR Taxes !
    6. No Social Security until you have earned it and paid for it !
    7. Find a place to lay your head !

    If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, then YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM !

    We've gone so far the other way... bent over backwards not to offend anyone.

    WAKE UP BRITAIN ! ! !
     
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  17. Uni_Mackem_MAHons

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    http://www.hoax-slayer.com/nigel-farage-tory-worst-nightmare.shtml

    Get a grip. White men are the most privileged group of people not only in England or the UK but in the entire world.

    The UK has its problems, dont get me wrong. But when idiotic statements like this start circulating, which aren't based on any semblance of fact and are used just to insight a nationalistic fervour I am so disappointed. The UK is a country of tolerance, its a country that has been built by immigrants, whether from India, Ireland or the Caribbean. It has been a shelter fro those who have been running from war and strife.

    Lets not forget our own history of going into another persons country and trying to change the culture. It wasn't that long ago when we had an empire. When the British Army fought against unarmed civilians.

    There is no excuse for the barbaric acts that took place a couple of days ago, but nor is there an excuse for mindless thugs going on a revenge spree.

    We live in a liberal society. We live in a society where the poorest aren't left to rot, nor do we live in a place where the sick go untreated.

    This isn't just YOUR country, its ours. Every last one. White or Black, Christian or Muslim or Hindu or those with no religion at all. Whether you are a Monarchist or a Republican, Labour or Tory. All of those types of people fought and died so we can live in the society we have now.

    Stop believing in chain messages like this that have no basis in reality. Look at the country you live in, and be proud, by all means. I love this country, with all of its idiosyncrasies and oddities that make the UK great.
     
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  18. Billy Death

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    A) Yes he was.
    B) Never said they were, but most terrorists today are muslim.
    C)No.
    D)No.
    E)No.
    F)I come across as much of a **** to you as you do to me.

    Not once did I tar all muslims with the likes of this scum, I said that at the start.
    I suggest you get off your pious high horse before you fall.

    Nice chatting, I hope all future Somali immigrants move next door to you.
     
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  19. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I was in Dubai and one local spat on my girlfriend in 2005 because she was wearing a tight fitting, sleeveless top. I grabbed the guy by the arm and used his hand, then his t-shirt to wipe his spit from my girlfriend's shoulder. Never, ever have I had to show such restraint in all of my life, but the lesson I learned was that I was in their country, I should really just bite the bullet, play by their rules and tell her to cover up in public a bit more. If that happened in Manchester, I'd have opened his head up without even thinking about it. Thankfully for me, most of the immigrants in this city tend to play by the rules. They respect that they are on foreign turf and they appreciate that this country is diverse and it's not possible for everybody to be the same.

    For me, if I was to get pissed off at religion going too far I'd end up going insane. I don't think it's fair that ANY of the taxes I pay should ever go towards any religious building/monument or so on, because it's the equivalent of donating a portion of the country's budget to the tooth fairy in my eyes, it's that simple. I am though, able to see the good in most religions, and that it can help people to be better people, on a moral level so that offers some means of justification to me.

    People in this country get pissed off because there are no answers to the problem. You can never filter out a dick head in any environment until they have been exposed. If we could identify them prior to them being a public dick head, then they'd all be taken care of. So by default, you look for the most logical solution to the problem and unfortunately whilst the intelligent people are at a loss to any solution, therefore remaining quiet, the thick bastards raise their ugly heads once again with suggestions of 'boot them all out, that's the answer'. Of course it's A solution, the same as dousing yourself in petrol and setting yourself on fire is a solution for being cold.

    There's a British soldier in a box now, which has given this lion of a nation a toothache, but we'll move on together 'as British people do best' and the terrorists will ALL die having failed to bring us down.
     
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  20. Class of 73

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    Umm, have a look at the BBC interview with anjem choudary last night, its on the BBC web-site and he is still preaching in this country. How does he tie in with the quote 'Every Muslim leader, along with every other British Muslim has said they don't support murders and have been appalled by this horrific incident' unquote?
     
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