"Thank God we're not in Yewrope" Pardew

Newcastle got their first win in six games this afternoon, and climbed four places in the table to 13th – and if we can beat Arsenal next Sunday, and that will not be easy, we have a chance to finish even higher in the league, and we could get up to 10th place – - if all the results go for us next Sunday – which would be unbelievable.

Alan Pardew was simply delighted that Newcastle were finally safe after a very tough second half today, and the defense with Coloccini, Yanga-Mbiwa and Mike Williamson having excellent games at the back – was the key.

We had mentioned when Williamson was included in the side in place of Steven Taylor who was sick, that Mike can play well in big games, and he again didn’t let the side down today – and all credit to him.

This is what Alan Pardew said after the game to reporters:

“We got an important result today,” “I don’t really care if Arsenal win 4-0 if I’m honest – I’m sure Spurs will – but I only care that our fans enjoy themselves.” “I’m very pleased.”

“It was a very important game for this football club. Particularly this year with the finance of the Premier League.”“I thought both penalties were dubious.”

“We played well after that, showed great resilience and it is massive for the North-East to have a team in the Premier League.” “Accusations of a ‘rift’ are absolutely ridiculous. Those that made them will be sobbing in their beer today,”

“I think if I put my best eleven out every week we would be a top-eight side but I’ve only been able to put it out three times at most. It’s an unforgiving league and if you look at this division, the likes of Swansea and West Brom are only five or six points ahead of us.”

“It’s been an unbelievable season and I think it’s been so, so tight because of the financial rewards at stake this year. I will make sure that we are well prepared for next season, and thank God we are not in the Europa League again.”

We must go all put for a win against Arsenal next Sunday – and who knows if we can get a win – then we’ll finish this terrible season off in style – which would be good.

That has to be the major goal now. and since we get £800K for each place in the League table, Newcastle will not do too bad if we can finish near the middle of the table this season.

And it will also help our recruitment in the summer – which is likely to be an exciting time for Newcastle fans.

We hope it will be an an exciting time for Newcastle fans.

We must try for top six again next season and turn this thing around.

But hey – we are safe – and that’s just fantastic.

Source: http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/05/12/pardew-thank-god-were-not-in-the-europa-league-again/



This joker has to go, surely?
Lack of ambition, he'd rather us be exiting cups early again and facing the league than anything.
I've just about had it with him, and him shooting his mouth off at every opportunity that his bigheadedness could allow him.
As if his comments about Sunderland can only dreaming about Europe weren't enough, now it's thank god we're not in the Europa? What's next? Thank god we're no longer in the FA cup and Thank god we're no longer in the Carling cup?

I'll be waiting to see when I'll be able to say "Thank god Alan Pardew is no longer our Manager"

 

Go all out for Harry Redknapp, Martinez, Poyet or Rafa please.

I am also sick of Pardew, not because of how much he talks, but because he has the general managerial ability of a wooden spoon. His tactics have been dire, his substitutions have caused more damage than good and he seems to make the team play worse after his half time team talks. The board will be looking at sacking him in my opinion, one win is not enough I'm afraid.

 

Pardew out simples

 

I do think he has a point about his limited chances to put our best XI out- part of the reason we did so well last season was a) a consistent back four, and b) the availability of our best players for most of the 38 games.

That being said, Pardew has made his fair share of mistakes. I'm in two minds as to whether I want him to stay. We've had one really good season where he could do no wrong, and one really bad one where he's seemed clueless at times. Surely we need to give him another season to see what his average is?

My main bugbear with him is that he talks a good game, but when the chips are down can't take a game by the scruff of the neck.

 

Can we just knock any post about new management on the head please? He is not going anywhere. Chronicle has just run a story about his job being safe. And knowing Ashley he will do the opposite as the majority of fans. Sit tight and let's crack on with transfer speculation. ...

 

Snockers has it right. The main thing Pardew needs to do is invest in team leaders. Last season I think we had leaders either by virtue of their strengths (Colo) or by seniority (Ba, Cabaye). They pulled the team around with or without help from the manager. This year the main people were injured or leaving. Then in January the dynamic changed and big characters came in which I think subdued what little leadership we had on the field, at the same time as Colo had huge problems.

Not easy to just fix, but that's the direction. My worry is that Pardew is either not competent enough or just too arrogant to understand.

 

Snockers has it right. The main thing Pardew needs to do is invest in team leaders. Last season I think we had leaders either by virtue of their strengths (Colo) or by seniority (Ba, Cabaye). They pulled the team around with or without help from the manager. This year the main people were injured or leaving. Then in January the dynamic changed and big characters came in which I think subdued what little leadership we had on the field, at the same time as Colo had huge problems.

Not easy to just fix, but that's the direction. My worry is that Pardew is either not competent enough or just too arrogant to understand.

 

I just saw that the Chronicle has come up with a story about him being safe as well.
I really don't know..
The problem is , do we really have the luxury to let him "test it out" another season? If it turns out as ****e as this season, are we really going to have to change everything in the middle of the season again? Granted, I understand the problems he had that he could ONLY field Willo week in week out for a majority of the season, but how do you explain the setpiece failures that is a total joke. The failure to score, the insistence on hoofing it to the edge of the box where Willo/Saylor would be, which has NEVER even caused any sort of threat ever. And of the numerous second half meltdowns, the open invitation to attack us every game where we hold a 1 goal lead. The insistence of playing Sissoko in the hole (one game wonder), playing Ba up top to appease him, throwing Cisse to the flank where he lost all confidence in front of goal for a large part of the season.

All that can't be down to the fact that he can't play a consistent lineup surely?

 

Snockers has it right. The main thing Pardew needs to do is invest in team leaders. Last season I think we had leaders either by virtue of their strengths (Colo) or by seniority (Ba, Cabaye). They pulled the team around with or without help from the manager. This year the main people were injured or leaving. Then in January the dynamic changed and big characters came in which I think subdued what little leadership we had on the field, at the same time as Colo had huge problems.

Not easy to just fix, but that's the direction. My worry is that Pardew is either not competent enough or just too arrogant to understand.

 

Repost..please delete.
stupid net

 

Your point about the corners is spot on, I'd overlooked that. That's something that need to be addressed in a lot of depth over the summer.

My hope is that by giving Pardew another year, we might see a return to last season's form, or close to it. I know the situations (and managers) aren't like for like, but Moyes finished 17th with Everton in 03/04, and from then on it was onwards and upwards, to The Glass Ceiling (5th). The summer break and pre-season will hopefully help the squad to gel and the January signings to bed in a bit more. People calling for Debuchy to be sold AFTER 4 MONTHS have got a screw loose.

 

I have to say I am over the moon we are not in the Europa League. We still don't have the squad for it, and I don't believe Ashley will provide the squad for it until things get into a more consistent pattern league finishes wise. I don't think he'll stay and I don't believe the Chroni have it right. Ashley will know its unpopular. Whereas if it was up to me and the fans were not fussed, I'd give it more time. However the fans are 90% against the bloke and I feel in that situ, you have no choice but to pull the trigger. Not great for stability but the ill feeling has swelled to such a level, I'm not convinced he can turn it around.

 

Last season he changed games. Struggled first half then came out much better in the 2nd. I think he just hasn't had the frontmen to work with this season. Ba leaving is an obvious point, but I think we even missed Leon Best this season. When we ground out 1-0 and 2-1 wins last year we had a guy up front who could hold onto the ball and relieve pressure on the defence. Less attacks = less chance of goals conceded. This season we've had Ameobi who just can't hold onto the ball properly when it's played to him, won't run around, therefore no focal point for the team to hit. Adam Campbell is not an option, Pardew would have been slated for relying on an 18 year old kid too much. Whether it's Pardew's fault, or the board's, not getting a good striker in has cost us points and at the very least a good alternative to Cisse. If I was in charge I'd be hammering on Mike's door to get the funds for Andy Carroll as with him around I think we'd close out games far more effectively and look way more assured with it. Also we'd threaten more again at set pieces. To me it's a no-brainer bringing him home. Hell, even bring Best back if it means keeping Shola away from the side!

 

I don't understand some of the comments on here. People saying they don't think he'll stay because he's unpopular - wtf was Joe Kinnear? Wasn't Shearer a populist choice, yet he wasn't kept on. Sacking KK and CH were both unpopular decisions. What about Sports Direct @ SJP? Oh, yeah, the fans backed that one 100%. Come on, people, Mike Ashley does not conform to the popular choice.

I also read a couple of comments about never having felt like this before, or some such drivel. What, so Dalglish, Souness, Gullit, Kinnear never made you feel unhappy about this club?! I mean, good grief. We've played much worse than the dross this season has served up. At least we won at QPR - last time we HAD to win a game, Villa walked us into the Championship!

 

Nail hit on head moment, very important point. The PL is about scoring goals, the defences are largely ****e. We have one striker capable at the level. Regardless of Pardew, no manager would have got us very far with this unbalanced squad. how much is down to Pardew or Ashley is unclear because none of us know how it works behind the scenes.

 

If we brought in just Andy Carroll, plus one of Remy/Aubameyang and one decent centre back, then at least 2 coaches who understood fitness better (do we even have a specialist in this area?!) then next season could not mirror this one, with or without Pardew.

Krul will be another year wiser, we must keep Colo and add to the defense with some actual leadership, Cabaye will be another year more experienced and will also understand the players around him better, plus we can give some competition for Cisse and - as SE said - close games out with a proper presence up front.

 

I dont think we even need that many players Nedders. I know it might be unpopular but Willow is a decent 4th choice CB. I think Collo is gone so we will need one experienced CB. However i think we will get one young CB and our first choice will become Taylor adn YMB. Then as you say we need two strikers. Though I think we will get one.

The reason for this is we still have Ameobi and Campball and if we get two, Campball will not get a game. For his development i think we should only get one if we think he has a chance of making it.

So transfer policy for me will be one CB and one Striker and id take Carroll. Also probably need a RB if Simmo goes but i doubt we will get one as we have cover in Raylor and Anita.

Will Anita stay for next season is the question. Feel sorry for the guy came in and not been given the chance to show what he has got really.

 

For me he's got till the end of October with the managerial merry go round already starting I don't think we can get the right person (unless Ashley has someone in the wings) with enough time to let them sort out the squad.

Plus I'm not sure we've done as bad as many seam to imply (still not good or even ok just not that bad), if all the remaining games have no draws then there will be 12 less points than last year so twelve more draws plus the distribution is staggered not smooth so unless with the gap of first to second being the same as 8th to 18th.

The thing I remember about last year was not that we won some amazing games but that we didn't let in many goals when we won and loads when lost (over 3 goals a game, and ~3/4 of the conceded in ~1/4 of the games) and this is clearly something that needs to be fixed as at the moment someone in defense is injured it becomes a free for all but that is more to do with the squad and training than the manager directly.

 

4 things for me:

1.) Fitness and Injuries - This has to be the most important thing to sort. The amount of injuries we have had this season is beyond a joke. I have a feeling next season wont be as bad due to less games etc but even still we need to have change in this department.

2.) Signing quality and not quantity - We keep trying to unearth "gems" etc but this summer we need to sign PROVEN premiership players for the right price ofc. Signings that take time to gel, signings for the future, blah blah wont fix the problems we have had. As discussed to death we need 4-6 good players.

3.) Pardew - now I put my first 2 points before Pards for a reason. He uses the injuries/europa/signings as excuses for the problems this season. He is correct. The issue I have is that HE should have addressed them all.

He is the manager - Thus he needs to deal with the issues. Cashley's arse would have been twitching if we hadnt won yesterday and for this reason I think he will learn by his mistakes and back the manager by signing the right players.

I honestly dont know what will happen with Pardew but I WANT HIM OUT! However. If he stays he wont have any exceuses left but can we afford a season of trial and error.

I am a manager in my workplace - If I do my job right for one year, then do it crap the next I dont get the benefit of an extra year - I GET THE SACK. Why should it be any different for him?

4.) The Players - They should take more responsibility too! Some players have been shocking but there are two classes for me as follows:

The players that dont have quality but give 110% - I am talking about Jonas, Williamson and the like. These players have and still do give 110% its just the lack of quality that lets them down. This for me is acceptable in terms of them trying their best.

The players that HAVE quality but give 80% - THESE players are the ones that need to be dealt with. I am talking about players like Cabaye, Tiote, Debuchy, Sissoko and Mbiwa who have been so inconsistant its unreal.

But what it all boils down to is a combination of all 4 of my points. The team has to have a system, without a system of play the best players in the world wont deliver.

Meh I got bored so I will go back to PARDEW OUT!

 

Pardew should only be replaced by a better manager.

There is no point sacking him and getting Lee Clark for instance.

Benitez or Poyet, otherwise he may as well stay and have another pop at relegation next season