1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

The rebuilding job.

Discussion in 'Leicester City' started by AKCJ, May 12, 2013.

  1. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    21,874
    Likes Received:
    2,934
    This is the other side of the argument that I can't disagree with.

    Do we stick or twist?

    Personally think we will.

    I agree we can't afford another Sven. But we also can't afford another decade outside the big time.
     
    #21
  2. Lesta Gangsta

    Lesta Gangsta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,764
    Likes Received:
    142
    Frankly AKCJ, I'm just glad it's not me that's got to make the decision! Sack Pearson and finish mid-table, then it's a disaster. Stick with him and miss out on promotion again, then Fallen, FF and the many others that think like they do will probably cancel their season tickets!

    I don't think we can literally afford to stay outside the Prem another decade - this next season is massive. We could end up with a transfer embargo in 2015 if we're not promoted...
     
    #22
  3. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    21,874
    Likes Received:
    2,934
    Times like this where I wish (this will sound really ****ing arrogant, but it's the truth) that we weren't as big of a club as we are.


    The expectations are such a hindrance to any potential success IMO. Our fans won't allow a season or two to rebuild i midtable even though that is probably the best thing we can do.


    We're not a million miles off. We do have a very talented and young squad. But it's miles too thin. We need the summer to improve and bulk our squad.

    Don't think we'd end up with embargo's. Our squad is, IMO, very valuable because of age and potential.
     
    #23
  4. leicester_ed

    leicester_ed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    6,786
    Likes Received:
    286
    tbf for a FOURTH CHOICE cb we have to be realistic - whitbread is experienced and more than good enough for 4th choice and SSL is more than capable of being 3rd choice and maybe even starting. With defenders as long as their not error prone and are to a certain ability its more how they are prepared than the manager as a unit than individual talent.

    Dyer is a fine winger and the exact type of personality we want, cant see any reason why we wouldnt keep him. Waggy id love to loan out and keep but im unsure.

    Get out the Beckford, Danns etc and then next season really is a full NP squad
     
    #24
  5. Lesta Gangsta

    Lesta Gangsta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,764
    Likes Received:
    142
    I'm beginning to not so much worry about promotion as not doing a Portsmouth.

    We can't lose more than £8m next season. We lost £30m last season (or the season before as I suppose we should start calling it). I know that was Sven going mental but it's a big difference.

    Pearson can assemble a good team on a budget. Very soon that is going to be a much sort-after commodity in this league. I'd rather do as Cardiff did than go for broke (although in fairness they've spend well over the years too). We tried that and it didn't work.

    I agree with your assessment of the squad and that's why it's important to get rid of the remnants of Sven's era (except maybe Nugent and Kasper, and even then it depends what they're on). Then we can make some more astute signings and push on next year. First things first though - we need to know and know soon who will be sorting out the squad. We don't want to miss out on possible signings/sales because we don't know what's happening. Hopefully we'll hear something either way over the next few days.
     
    #25
  6. Lesta Gangsta

    Lesta Gangsta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,764
    Likes Received:
    142
    I dread to think what St Ledger's on. He's not good enough to be paid more than most of the first team. I think Konch will also be looked at. Whitbread as fourth choice, sure but we need a second and third.

    Lloyd Dyer is 30 now and great as a squad player. But I'd prefer we had someone keeping him out of the first team. Waggy - I just don't feel comfortable with him coming on to change games. Obviously Nige doesn't either that's why he brought Kane in. He has one year on his contract (we think?) so if we can't sell he may be out on loan most of the season to see out his contract. Gallagher, Danns, Beckford, Wellens, Vardy and Futacs can all go for me. Marshall is a Pearson signing so probably isn't paid a fortune (and is a damn good player when he wants to be) so he can stay!
     
    #26
  7. I used to be john fallen

    I used to be john fallen Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Messages:
    3,448
    Likes Received:
    19
    Pearson... has been given free reign since he came back.. and all we get is another hard luck story.. a lot of HIS players have been frozen out and a lot of HIS players have flopped... I never go for the "hang on to nurse for the fear of something worse" thinking... I know my own mind.. I know what my thoughts on mr, pearson are.. he is a loser.. sorry... the owners need to big up.. and be brave..<ok>
     
    #27
  8. Lesta Gangsta

    Lesta Gangsta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,764
    Likes Received:
    142
    Depends what you mean by "free reign". I don't think he's been allow to spend like Sven was. We've had to prepare for FFP next season for starters and I think our owners have realised that throwing money at promotion campaigns doesn't guarantee success.

    Which of his players have been frozen out and flopped? Vardy was always a gamble coming from non-league like that. Futacs and Whitbread were always intended as back up. Nearly all the others have been regulars.

    I'm all for having the balls to twist if things aren't going well. Truth is though, we could be in a Hell of lot worse position going into next season. I wouldn't go as far as saying: "if it's not broken...", but I will say it won't take a whole lot of nursie's medicine to remedy the situation.
     
    #28
  9. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    21,874
    Likes Received:
    2,934
    Interesting little tweet here;

    GeoffPetersTalkSPORT &#8207;@talkSPORTgeoff 3m
    Cardiff won just 6 of their last 21 matches in 2011/12 inc a 5-0 agg play off defeat. Kept their manager, strengthened the squad = champions
     
    #29
  10. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    4,381
    That smile must have been superimposed! :D
     
    #30

  11. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    4,381
    Don't think you will go broke - unless you sack Nigel and replace him with Harry (who seems to have a track record of leaving clubs in a financial mess!)
     
    #31
  12. Lesta Gangsta

    Lesta Gangsta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,764
    Likes Received:
    142
    It's the rarest beast in captivity!

    EDIT: Do you see Pearson's face when Nugent and Kane skied those free kicks? He looked like he was going to murder them!
     
    #32
  13. Lesta Gangsta

    Lesta Gangsta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,764
    Likes Received:
    142
    Sound advice.

    Although I'm sure Filberto would say Cardiff stuck with Jones for years and they only got promoted after they got rid...
     
    #33
  14. trumpets

    trumpets Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    0
    i dont think u lads need too much rebuilding tbf, dont get any of your key players poached add in some quaility fbs (espcially at lb) get that keane back, add in a cm, maybe replace dyer and get nugent firing more consistant and your fine. all you really need is better depth your starting 11 on its day is up there with best in the championship, but your depth is ****ing awful.
     
    #34
  15. StrovolosTiger

    StrovolosTiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    6,507
    Likes Received:
    154
    I wouldn't worry about it, Matie, you're not as big a club as you think you are.
     
    #35
  16. dem_on

    dem_on Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    823
    Likes Received:
    3
    If Nigel goes you might get a better return from Danns .Perhaps the wages might be of concern?
     
    #36
  17. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2011
    Messages:
    74,852
    Likes Received:
    39,638
    Can't compare Nugent with Vydra I'm afraid - Vydra's movement, technique and intelligence are top drawer - I suspect we will be seeing him playing in European competition(s) for many years to come.
     
    #37
  18. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2011
    Messages:
    74,852
    Likes Received:
    39,638
    I have never stopped going to support Leicester because I don't particularly like the manager (indeed 'like' is the wrong term, let's try 'rate')- nor will I (although Gary Megson did make me pause for thought at one stage - Southend away to be precise, when we got altitude sickness if the ball looked like going in their half) - but, and as I've said consistently, some managers are better than others - I've never been convinced by Nigel Pearson - that hasn't changed - but so what?
     
    #38
  19. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2011
    Messages:
    74,852
    Likes Received:
    39,638
    .. which would make me a very bad man. So best ignore truths like that eh? Not me you need to convince - it's the owners.
     
    #39
  20. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    24,239
    Likes Received:
    1,496
    Danns isn't good enough either. King, James and Drinkwater are all better players
     
    #40

Share This Page