http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-grandmothers-suspected-suicide-8612647.html Do you think it's an unfair tax? Do you think it's right that a single person can occupy social housing with 3 bedrooms?
It's a London centric tax. You can rent a 3 bedroom house in Belfast for about 400 quid a month, you don't need to fill every room. As for this lady's story - (with a worrying lack of empathy) I can't help but feel like telling her to **** off - you've made the conscious decision to end your own life and you had every right to make that decision (I might positively encourage it actually) but stop trying to blame it on the government's lack of charity. You should be grateful for the charity that you receive, not assume it as an unassailable human right. This is one of the problems with this country, many people assume that they have the right to live a stress free life without pain nor struggle and that someone else is responsible for providing it to them.
I'm not sure how this is being rolled out by the councils and housing associations, what warning was given and how long ago and what help has there been to rehouse those who it will affect. The fair way to do it would be to offer smaller accomodation locally and allow a person to remain where they are if they refuse to move but at a higher rent. If no alternative accomodation can be offered then I think it is unfair to deduct money from benefits. Having said all that, this lady could have taken a lodger or even rent out a room for storage, these storage firms charge about £100/week for a cupboard.
Correct......Anyone who gets to 53 years of age and kills themselves over 20quid a week, then blames the government do not need to be here. She will have been getting perks for years and the minute she loses one, she kills herself. Good ****ing riddance
What the **** where her family doing if she was struggling to get by because she was "missing" out on £20 a week... Blame them not the goverment.
The bedroom tax was first announced in the June 2010 budget (3 years ago!) and did not come in until the 1st April 2013, currently housing benefit is paid directly to the landlord. So I assume the council/housing association would have had to claim the 25% difference from the tenant, probably roughly £80 at time of death in this instance - IF they chased it. It is 25% if you have 2 or more unoccupied rooms. 14% for one room. My working taxes go in part towards this benefit state. I cannot afford on my income to move to a bigger property for family requirement or that of sheer convenience and luxury. Therefore why should my taxes be used to subsidise people on state housing benefit to accommodate beyond requirement in a growing population. People in the private sector receive no such subsidy to my knowledge, so why should those in the council/housing association sector. Like all of us when we fall on hard times, we have to find ways to cut costs or downsize. Those affected by these new rules, can either apply to downsize property as may have been the case here going by that report or use the additional rooms to gain the extra income, while at the same time easing any housing crisis. I know it is not quite as easy as all that but some people do have a choice it is just no longer going to be one at the states convenience. Yes, the stress of having to move from a family home after 18 years may be a sad one, however, it is clear from this article there was family, so there was alternative choices to assist a loved one in such a plight. It's everyone's responsibility not just that of the state. I did not come from a deprived background but I did come from a poor one. We all have had to suffer hardships to put food to mouth and a roof over our head, it is not just exclusive to those on benefits.
The usual grizzly adams libertarian bollocks about its all our own responsibility etc.True blue ****e.She isnt to blame.Her family isnt to blame.The con-dems are to blame.Roll on 2015 so we can tramp the dirt down on the ****ers!
I believe it's always been the case that in private rentals, Housing Benefit would only be paid to cover your needs i.e. they'd pay for a 1 bedroom flat but only pay 2/3 say for a bigger property. This is making it more equal between social and private rentals.
Well you know MPs want even cheaper subsidised booze because the poor dears can't afford it on their current wages So tax people who are trying to pull themselves up the ladder and make sure they fail
I'd imagine she was already severely depressed as I can't see anyone in their right mind offing themselves for £20 a week. There's nothing wrong with the bedroom tax as far as I'm concerned. Why should my taxes pay for one person to live in 2 bed property?
Classic right-wing smokescreen. The economy has collapsed worldwide due to the arrogance and ignorance of the people running the banking system. Someone has to pay, so lets make sure it's the poorest and most vulnerable people in society. Oh, and while we're at it, let's blame all our problems on immigrants and the EU.
I grew up living in a council house, I didn't really have a choice in the matter as that was the random scenario I was born into. During the early years of my existence our family would have been absolutely ****ed had we not had the assistance from the government, but we eventually got on our feet and just after I left home my parents were able to buy their house (right at the top of the boom). Anyway our house was an old 4 bedroom Victorian terrace in an area of Belfast that has a huge social waiting list. People can't move into neighbouring (half empty) council estates because of the sectarian nonsense. Had my parents not bought their property (and it's another question whether that is right) then they would have been living in a 4 bedroom council house using only one bedroom - and even if I do love my parents and I'm eternally grateful that there was a state who kept us from homelessness (while it pointed guns at us etc...) I still think on the balance of fairness that people in such scenarios should be moved to a flat and that a family with children should be put in that house. You got 18 years of the government subsidising your life, you should be grateful for the help and you should move over for someone else who was once in the same position as you.