Where do we go from here then?

Even if we do stay up, wtf is gonna happen next season?

I don't see Cabaye staying, and I can tell a cracking player like Anita will leave because Pardew doesn't give him a proper chance, despite the fact that he's the best holding mid we have IMO.

I have a strong feeling Pardew wont be sacked. We'll just sell the players that are throwing tantrums against him, and buy some players that just shut the **** up and do their job.

Personally, I'd go for Rafa Benitez. I know some people will say he wont come here, but IMO he's an intelligent person and he'll look at our squad and know that, with the right management and a few additions, we could easily be in the top 10 or higher.

But I really don't think it will happen.

I smell us drifting in and out of the top 10 for the next 3-4 years and Ashley will be content with that as long as the club is financially stable.

 

The planet is a gunboat in a sea of fear and where are you? They brought in the CIA,t he tanks and the whole Marines to blow me away, to blow me sky high.

 

Players will go... Players will come.
As long as Pardew goes I'll see that as progress.

 

If we stay up, Pardew will stay. Christ knows who'll be sold; Cabaye seems the most obvious choice. He'll be sacked in November when we're in the bottom 3.

 

I strongly believe that it's Ashley's business plan for Newcastle to stay mid-table for as long as possible.

Therefore he will keep Pardew on if relegation is avoided.

 

Will he keep the fans though? The rumblings of discontent are getting louder.

 

Pardew will stay for sure. This is his team, he signed almost of these players so will get another season i think

 

For me in order to keep Cabaye & Ben Arfa (our two best players after Colo) then we need a new manager, preferably a French one that knows their game inside out and will play to their strenghts. Rene Girard could be an option given he knows Yanga-Mbiwa very well too and that he's recently said he wants to manage in England. Could be a good fit in my opinion.

We won't improve unless Pardew goes for me. I think the best thing to happen would be for us to stay up without actually winning another game (wouldn't be good for my ticker though) because then Ashley would see the players really aren't playing for Pardew anymore and he'd have no option othan than to remove him from his position.

At this moment in time I fear if we beat QPR and stay up then Ashley will let him carry on as manager of our club.

EDIT: I do obviously want us to beat QPR in order to stay up, I just really don't want Pardew at the helm for any longer than the end of this season.

 

I think most of us feel this way. Time alone will tell.

 

Putting aside my views on Pardew, I think Ashley will have been shocked and to a large degree embarrassed by what's happened this season. I think now he's gone a long way to get the fans to understand what he's trying to do for the club and subsequently dilute the venom aimed at him, he will be fully aware of the feelings toward Pardew and will be keen to keep equilibrium amongst the supporters. I therefore think he'll dispense with Pardew's services whatever happens this season.

Ashley knows his way round a pound coin and will have added clauses to Pardew's 8 year contract that will allow him to get rid without it costing him a fortune, he also understands that people can make mistakes, however I'm not sure whether he trusts Pardew to learn from his this season, his track record would suggest not.

 

There have been mistakes all round, Ashley should have bolstered the team at the start of the season, not in January when we were already floundering, Pardew has been poor this season, and the players just haven't shown up too many times for me.
If we do stay up and Pardew keeps his job, he is one lucky bloke, I would expect him to be replaced in the summer, harsh but the norm these days, not replacing him could be seen as lack of ambition on Ashley's part, time will tell.

 

I don't mind if Pardew stays but I suspect he won't. I'm not sure Ashley has the balls for the unpopular decision, I think he'll look to keep the fans onside. The fact is the majority want Pardew out and he can't have failed to notice this. I'm not sure there is any way to win the fans over. Even if we started well next season, getting back to winning games which will lead to playing some good stuff, the fans now dislike him and will be awaiting the first sign of trouble. I'd like to see him given time but it is not the modern way.

I think it is pretty obvious that Cabaye is a talented but fairweather performer. I'd like to keep him because he can pick a pass but we'll have to balance the side. We need a Mr Reliable leader in midfield alongside him (in the Speedo mould). Someone who delivers you a minimum of 7/10 every week regardless whether he is in the mood or not, or whether you're in a tricky spell. HBA is still the crown jewel but like Saylor is fragile and injury prone. So we need cover there (not Marveaux as he is also injury prone).

More than anything and regardless who is in charge we must strengthen our attacking options. Campbell can be your 4th choice, but you need two others as a minimum. One should be pacy and one powerful with an ability to lead the line. You cannot go in with what we have, its the worst in the league.

I don't think you'd see a Rafa type wages boss. I would not want him at all anyway and I guarantee the fans would turn on him because of his style of football and management. Hopefully if we do bullet Pards it will be a more modern style manager with a fresher approach.

One thing is for sure if any of these prima donnas who have let us down this season decide to pipe up, ship them out immediately. They have let us down badly and no one is bigger than the club regardless how talented.

 

Only way forward is pardew to go ref the players I don't care who goes after the performance against Sunderland and liverpool they ain't fit to wear the shirt they all make us a laughing stock

Ashley never does the right thing so what will change ???

We need players like Carroll who give a ****


QUOTE=Tash Heisenberg;4706414]Even if we do stay up, wtf is gonna happen next season?

I don't see Cabaye staying, and I can tell a cracking player like Anita will leave because Pardew doesn't give him a proper chance, despite the fact that he's the best holding mid we have IMO.

I have a strong feeling Pardew wont be sacked. We'll just sell the players that are throwing tantrums against him, and buy some players that just shut the **** up and do their job.

Personally, I'd go for Rafa Benitez. I know some people will say he wont come here, but IMO he's an intelligent person and he'll look at our squad and know that, with the right management and a few additions, we could easily be in the top 10 or higher.

But I really don't think it will happen.

I smell us drifting in and out of the top 10 for the next 3-4 years and Ashley will be content with that as long as the club is financially stable.[/QUOTE]

 

There's my take

 

I cannot believe anyone with the ability to turn a computer on honestly believes Pardew is for the chop?

Look up the Mirror's interview with Llambias from around the 8 year contract time if you don't believe me. You're talking about two guys who saw fit to bring in Dennis Wise & Joe Kinnear, who dicked Shearer around, who got us relegated, who sacked Hughton without just cause, who couldn't be bothered to strengthen when we finished in a now frankly ridiculous 5th place - and you expect them to sack Pardew and bring in Rafael Benitez?!?!?!!?

 

I must say, I think the chances of Pardew going are pretty slim. I know some are of the opinion that Ashley has been embarrassed with performances and results, as well as the fact the fans are against Pardew. Thus, making the sacking of Pardew seem more realistic.

The way I see it is, that Ashley would be far more embarrassed by doing a U-turn on the eight year contract that he handed out. The notion that Ashley actually cares what we think, isn't exactly laughable, but I don't think he really gives us much consideration - he never really has, has he?

As much as I/the majority of us believe Pardew going would be the best thing all around. I don't think Ashley sees it that way. As has been said. Chuckles and the fat man are happy with just existing in the Premier League and running a tight ship financially. We are nothing more than a marketing vehicle for 'Sports Direct'. Any improvement on merely 'existing' is a happy coincidence.

Well, that's my two penneth, for what it's worth (not allot).

 

I believe we need a manager who can motivate when the going gets tough. who can change the play. Who can get his players to play to their strengths and overcome a variety of opposition, something which Pardew cannot do.
He's one dimensional. Takes the applause but not the boos.
The issue might not be sacking Pardew; I don't doubt Ashley has a decent get out of big payouts loophole in his contract.
The issue is the other back room staff, a few who also got 8 year deals, would also need paying off (probably with the exception of Carr), as almost always a new manager comes in and wants his own staff.
Then you're looking at paying compo for the manager and his team coming in.
We spent in January, using up some of the summer budget no doubt, and the board will be looking to keep within a certain figure, regardless the TV bonus (if we stay up).
Any costs for a new management team are going to reduce squad funds further.
How many managers are going to find us an attractive proposition?

 

.spot on

 

I've got to honestly say here, I really don't fear ANY of our players leaving in the summer. If we make our money back on them, I won't shed a tear.

The player I most want to stay (by far our best) is definitely going in Coloccini, so the rest are fair game. Ben Arfa NEVER plays then in the dozen games over a season he'll do something insanely good in every three.

Cabaye again CAN be good when he feels like it but more often than not this year he has been dross, anonymous. Don't get me started on his best mate.
Tiote a liability, Papiss too flaky and not aggressive/ruthless enough, Jonas bored and past it... and Santon, well a defender he ain't.

Whenever I see these threads worrying about players leaving a terrible team, it baffles me. They are the reason we're so poor!

Yes undoubtedly Pardew and staff are as much to blame and should bite the bullet in summer, but if so-called 'top professionals' with ambition and hunger can't play for themselves, the shirt if NOT for the manager then they can do one.

I haven't seen a lot of hunger, pride and quality from international players who will happily jump ship for champs league football without bothering to earn it first.

In an ideal world I want stability and NUFC to stop chopping managers/players wholesale BUT that's based on not veering from 5th place to 4th bottom in a year!
Call me fickle but frankly that kind of lurch from sublime to ridiculous is unprecedented...

 

I have to say it but we're looking through Black & White tinted glasses and some of our players are not as good as we make them out to be i.e S.Taylor,Cisse,Tiote and Ben Arfa which are the backbone of our team well not Arfa.I feel we really missed R Taylor and Guthrie plus nothing to offer coming off the bench with Best/Lovers gone.The management got cocky and let Ferguson go on loan IMO he should have been a starter from the beginning,games bring confidence.