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Who can least afford to go down?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Rick O'Shea, May 7, 2013.

  1. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    With the table being so tight, and it being conceivable that almost have the leagues teams could fill that last space, which, as a club, could suffer most?
    Simple question, complicated answer.

    Not a 'I don't want my club going down'.
     
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  2. Obertan's Rancid Toe

    Obertan's Rancid Toe Well-Known Member

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    QPR <laugh>.

    Then probably you lot to be honest or Villa, however they're more or less safe.
     
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  3. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    We've trimmed our squad, trimmed our wage bill, put player clauses in contracts in case of relegation and 30,000 fans each home game, I suppose we're as well equipped to go down as anyone. Newcastle however with no release clauses for the january players, add that to a reduction in fans if they keep pardew and paying off 5 years of contract if they don't. I think they could be in trouble.
     
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  4. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    wigan probably because they would lose a few players and martinez would likely get poached
     
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  5. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    Wigan will find it very hard to come back up.

    Newcastle depending on the FFP for championship clubs, and depending if they can keep a nucleus of good players, may come back up, but if the FFP is strict they may struggle big time if they have to sell the nucleus of their squad.

    Norwich, probably the best equipped, No really huge players on massive wages (wolfswinkle may be kicking himself though, but they may come back up with him)

    Us, I think we would be OK might struggle to come straight back up, but i do not think it would cripple us, especially with wage cuts and clauses etc.

    Villa = no cash and a young team anyway, sell bent and benteke for about £35 million and they should be OK and might come back up.

    So Wigan and/or Newcastle depending on the FFP etc etc.
     
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  6. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    Our players, (bar Collocini) aren't on fantastic money, our gates didn't drop significantly (43388 average in 2009/2010) and there's no way on Gods earth Ashley would be daft enough not to have a get out clause on Pardew. We'll be alright if the worst happens.
     
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  7. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    I don't know many that can afford to pass up on £60m base income. This league is far more important than the Champions League for the likes of us and the rest of the other clubs outside the top 4.


    No other competition on earth nets it competitors a basic £60m just for turning up?
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    Fair do's, you know your club better than me <ok> So just QPR well and truly ****ed then.
     
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  9. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    The problems would have arisen if you didn't bounce back straight away.
     
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  10. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    Lets hope Wigan find out. <ok>
     
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  11. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    No idea, TBH. But the third club, whichever one it is, will have to get straight back up or they'll be in real financial trouble. Overall, I suspect it would be Wigan who would suffer most,, because of losing players.

    That said, the mags might lose Shola!
     
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  12. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    yep, but they'll be ok if they go. DW is an irritating little miser. He talked to me like as was a piece of **** cause the shop was a mess in the middle of the afternoon, We were staff down and I was tied up with customers all day. ****ing prick. I found a new job and quit JJB a week later. pray they get stuffed tonight.
     
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  13. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Lostinvegas Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, ourselves, the Mags, Villa and Wigan would all be ok because we have rich owners who could stand the financial burden for a while. I don't really know the position for the likes of Norwich and Fulham. The problem you have is when the club don't have a rich owner and the club cannot stand the cash flow.
     
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    I want Villa to gan down cannot not stand them, the bull**** they gave them last week was unbelievable they have been crap all season. I hope the mags, wigan, us and Norwich win and soton beat Stoke Wigan beat Villa on the final day now that would be glorious !.
    as I have said if we win and Newcastle or Norwich lose on sunday we are safe!.
     
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  17. bishbosh

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    'Newcastle however with no release clauses for the january players, add that to a reduction in fans if they keep pardew and paying off 5 years of contract if they don't. I think they could be in trouble.'

    I don't know where this release clause story started but can't find any reliable source that it's true. The same with the Pardew contract! If anyone thinks Mike Ashley is daft enough to allow this sort of thing doesn't know the man very well at all. Everything he does is performance related, including players wages, contracts, staff pensions etc.

    Newcastle depending on the FFP for championship clubs, and depending if they can keep a nucleus of good players, may come back up, but if the FFP is strict they may struggle big time if they have to sell the nucleus of their squad.

    I'm not sure what the FFP for Championship clubs is but why would it be so different from the Premier League one? We have already proved we can be relegated, hold on to (most) of our players and then come back up.
     
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  18. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    The only relegation in years isn't the problem. The problem would be is of occured again and/or if you didn't bounce back immediately.
     
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  19. Charley Farley

    Charley Farley Well-Known Member

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    Newcastle, being a yo-yo club, will be ok as they are used to it.
     
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